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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post

    You read a number which was deliberately misleading. If you do more research, you'll see that $640 million is the amount of money this group made for contracted work over many years, not just on this web site.

    Now, I suspect you'll deny it, because you don't strike me as the person who will let facts get in the way of a good partisan attack, but the figures are out there if you'd like. I'll even post information from a source which has absolutely no reason to try and lower the number:


    Rumor Check: Obamacare Website Might Be Glitchy, But It Didn’t Cost $634 Million | TheBlaze.com
    Unlike an Obama supporter, I'm always willing to run with the facts. To bad the Blaze ended up with this when they tried to find out how much taxpayer money the Obama administration wasted on the disaster they created: " Neither the White House nor the Office of Budget and Management immediately returned requests for comment from TheBlaze about the cost of the website and fixing the system’s glitches"

    Maybe they didn't waste $640 million on that trashed site so far. But pardon me if I don't jump for joy that they only wasted $100 million of taxpayer money, if that's all they spent. I doubt it that's the real tab.

    But please keep trying to spin this disaster of the Obama administration as a positive. It's great comedy.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Unlike an Obama supporter, I'm always willing to run with the facts. To bad the Blaze ended up with this when they tried to find out how much taxpayer money the Obama administration wasted on the disaster they created: " Neither the White House nor the Office of Budget and Management immediately returned requests for comment from TheBlaze about the cost of the website and fixing the system’s glitches"

    Maybe they didn't waste $640 million on that trashed site so far. But pardon me if I don't jump for joy that they only wasted $100 million of taxpayer money, if that's all they spent. I doubt it that's the real tab.
    You're willing to run with facts...and yet, you doubt it when the facts have been reported. Got it.

    But please keep trying to spin this disaster of the Obama administration as a positive. It's great comedy.
    I'm not spinning anything. The website is awful, no doubt about it. And it's because of the terrible quality that Democrats/Obama are looking to temporarily delay enforcing the penalties for not signing up in time.

    Again, you seem to misunderstand presenting facts as "spin".

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You're willing to run with facts...and yet, you doubt it when the facts have been reported. Got it.

    I'm not spinning anything. The website is awful, no doubt about it. And it's because of the terrible quality that Democrats/Obama are looking to temporarily delay enforcing the penalties for not signing up in time.

    Again, you seem to misunderstand presenting facts as "spin".
    I am still laughing over your insinuation that logic and facts are liberal tools. I have yet to see those so called logc and facts on full display here as most liberals want to divert from the Obama record.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

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    I am still laughing over your insinuation that logic and facts are liberal tools.
    It's not my insinuation, it was Anthony60's insinuation.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    If Obama delays, he was wrong..
    If he doesn't delay, he is wrong..
    See how that narrative works??
    What's it like to work against something 24/7, instead of for it ?
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If Obama delays, he was wrong..
    If he doesn't delay, he is wrong..
    See how that narrative works??
    What's it like to work against something 24/7, instead of for it ?
    Obama was wrong for not negotiating with the House on a delay because our campaigner in chief has zero leadership skills.

    Obama makes it easy to be against him as the results give us all we need.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Agreed. But the Republicans desire to delay was to achieve their political position of repealing it. The Democrat desire for delay (which I just saw on TV the Obama Administration has given citizens an extra 6 weeks to sign up) is to be fair to citizens who are required to sign up.
    Yes. Republicans want to ultimately to repeal Obamacare because they believe it is unfair to the citizenry. Democrats want to delay because they think that keeping the mandate after the disaster of a roll-out would be unfair to the citizenry.

    There are partisan advantages to the delay for both sides, just as both sides also are now coming to the belief that delay would be best for the American people. For you to ignore the partisan motive for Democrats (which is indeed there) and the desire for good policy on the part of Republicans (which is indeed there) is a partisan hackery move, and you are better than it.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    Canada does it all very nicely and so do other first world countries. But you're probably right abou the US continuing to do it the way it has. The US wastes nearly as much as it spends on health care and it can't even do it for all the people. Canada does it for roughly half as much per capita.
    Rationing isn't good for much, but it is indeed good for keeping down expenditures. What was it that the Supreme Court there said when they struck down part of the law in order to allow Canadians to escape their health system? "Access to a waiting list is not access to healthcare".

    Your problem is that you have a bunch of teabaggers who are too involved with racist hate for your president
    You don't give a location, so I'm just going to go with you aren't from the US and therefore can't be blamed if you don't know what you are talking about. Your description of the Tea Party movement is about as accurate as if I were to describe the Labour movement in Britain as a group of Neo-Nazis.

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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It's not my insinuation, it was Anthony60's insinuation.
    I think you need to recalibrate, because you seem to be completely of the rails, in left wing territory.
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    Re: 'Delay’ suddenly not a dirty word at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    You're willing to run with facts...and yet, you doubt it when the facts have been reported. Got it.
    Even if it was 10k of tax payer money, the thing does not work, and the only real way to make it work would be to restart from scratch.


    I'm not spinning anything. The website is awful, no doubt about it. And it's because of the terrible quality that Democrats/Obama are looking to temporarily delay enforcing the penalties for not signing up in time.

    Again, you seem to misunderstand presenting facts as "spin".
    So, where are your calls for heads to roll on this one??

    We should be looking for stupidity, incompetence and corruption and all responsible should face a jury... Simple...

    Then again, there are some that seem to feel that rule of law is an archaic concept best discarded in the name of progress. (not necessarily you)

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