Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say
Yes, by all means lets try to squelch any points that do not conform to your own.
If you have not given any thought to the bigger picture that is your problem, not mine. By not taking into account the fact that terrorists are in the very business of destroying human rights, both for their victims as well as the ideology they intend to implement, nor the fact that their supporters living with them share this intent, you fail to understand what human rights are all about.
Yes, it is tragic when children are killed. Why you have made a choice that the children who are to be the victims of terrorists do not matter is beyond me, as that is the result of NOT responding to terrorism.
In the algebra of warfare, one needs to consider the ramifications of inaction as well as action. Had the world confronted Hitler years before it did, how many lives could have been saved? Would you have allowed no response to German aggression simply because innocent people would die? They die either way, so the truly rational approach, and the one that actually takes human rights into account is one that considers all sides of the equation and not just one.
Well, this post is a little clearer to me. I had no idea what you meant by 'the business or terrorists' in your other post. It just didn't click in my mind.
The report being tabled does not address human rights attrocities being visited upon people by terrorist ogrganizations. There are othe human rights reports that talk to this issue. The subject of this report, and thus this thread is human rights violations committed by the U.S. through its drone program.
You seem to want to get into the game of 'You commit bigger human rights violations than I do' with terror organizations. It would be hard to argue against that point. I don't think the purpose of this report is to say the U.S. commits the most violations. It is to say that the U.S. is commiting violations, and you seem to agree.
The question this report raises is this.
Should the U.S. continue with the drone program? ( I will put you down for a yes)
Are we carrying out the drone program in the best way possible?
What are the ramifications of carying on, as is, without making changes? Can we reach our goals?
I don't think anyone is saying that we just ignore terrorism and maybe it will go away. I think the U.S. has, in the last nuber of years, made being in the top echelon of al-queda a very undesirable position to have. This is a sign of success.
I know if I was in al-queda I would not be looking for a promotion
I think most here agree that we need to combat terrorism. The debate in this thread is whether continuing drone attacks, the current way, makes sense.