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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    We are NOT at war with most of the places we're using drones.
    True. We are at "war" with the people that are targeted and the population of the area are not preventing from attacking us. Do you really think we should allow people of whom we know the whereabouts to plan and organize attacks against our families and friends?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    True. We are at "war" with the people that are targeted and the population of the area are not preventing from attacking us. Do you really think we should allow people of whom we know the whereabouts to plan and organize attacks against our families and friends?
    So in your mind, ANYTHING is justifiable as long as it's in "your country's best interest".

    Drone strikes, assassinations, torture, infinite civilian death and/or destruction.....doesn't matter as long as somebody in "your country" deems it justified?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So in your mind, ANYTHING is justifiable as long as it's in "your country's best interest".

    Drone strikes, assassinations, torture, infinite civilian death and/or destruction.....doesn't matter as long as somebody in "your country" deems it justified?
    You would rather you and your kids are wiped out or dismembered?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not know if you have ever been targeted. If you have, I have found, the view on terrorists hiding in populations changes some. When my cousin was bombed, a number of people in the vicinity died or lost limbs. That makes you think. Especially toward the populations that allow the terrorists to hide. Also you would probably have thought about why it is important to make the business of terror deadly for the terrorists and those who allow them to do their work from within the populations camouflage.

    So yes. If it is me or my family or my friends? I would prefer 30 of them dead to one of mine. As a matter of fact, tell you children that you would prefer them dead to 30 in Yemen.
    This is why overly emotional people shouldn't be allowed in on the decision making process.
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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    You would rather you and your kids are wiped out or dismembered?
    I'd prefer to not continue the cycle at all. So yes, may have to turn the other cheek from time to time.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    This is why overly emotional people shouldn't be allowed in on the decision making process.
    In other words, you would prefer your kids be dismembered to doing something to stop it?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    warhawks + drone strikes..... = more war for us....

    Its as simple as that. Some warhawks actually WANT to kill civileans without it overblowing in our face. They want our war factor to always be up to date and practiced. The more hate they create the more they line their own coffers.

    Anything else is a sales pitch as far as im concerned.
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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    In other words, you would prefer your kids be dismembered to doing something to stop it?
    What you're advocating won't stop the cycle, it will merely perpetuate it. Bombs, destruction, and death will breed only further bombs, destruction, and death.

    The intellectual dishonesty of your argument is your false dichotomy where you pretend it's either violence or nothing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'd prefer to not continue the cycle at all. So yes, may have to turn the other cheek from time to time.
    Then I guess we will vote differently. But did you tell your family you would prefer them dead and dismembered (that is the "other cheek" in this case) to doing something to prevent it? Tell you the truth, I don't think I like your attitude toward friends and family.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What you're advocating won't stop the cycle, it will merely perpetuate it. Bombs, destruction, and death will breed only further bombs, destruction, and death.

    The intellectual dishonesty of your argument is your false dichotomy where you pretend it's either violence or nothing.
    It all boils down to what you want to do to stop your family and your friends from being killed and dismembered. If you think that is okay.....

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