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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
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    "The bodies were charred like coal - I could not recognise the faces," Ahmad al-Sabooli, a 23 year-old Yemeni farmer, said.....
    And you are proposing that it not be Ahmad in Yemen saying this but Sally of her friends in front of the Chicago drugstore. I see.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    And you are proposing that it not be Ahmad in Yemen saying this but Sally of her friends in front of the Chicago drugstore. I see.
    and you are suggesting there is a difference? Innocent people being blown up is okay, as long as the person is not American? No one will accuse you of being Christian.

    Perhaps there should be some clear U.S. policy. "We will not kill more than 30 innocent people at one time in pursuit of a suspected terrorist leader."
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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Imagine if the Chinese or Russians sent a drone over Anycity, USofA and poofed up a secluded motel that housed a wanted "terrorist".
    Imagine if in that hotel there was also a half dozen or more children on an overnight church retreat.

    I wonder how many "supporters" of USofA drone strikes into countries we're supposedly not actively or officially at war with would support other countries doing the same thing on US soil?


    My thoughts on this are simple.

    The "war on terror" is much like the "war on drugs".

    It's causing more problems than it's solving.
    It's created an almost symbiotic relationship between the "aggressors" and the "defenders".

    It's time to stop such nonsense.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to this article were 2,160 militants and 67 civilians killed in Drone attacks in Pakistan.

    From this article:


    Drone Deaths: 3 Percent Of People Killed By U.S. Strikes Since 2008 Were Civilians, Pakistan Reports

    "But if just one child is saved..." - paraphrased from unknown author.


    :sarcasm:

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Deschain View Post
    "But if just one child is saved..." - paraphrased from unknown author.


    :sarcasm:

    As long as it ain't your kid who dies, who cares right?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by rjay View Post
    and you are suggesting there is a difference? Innocent people being blown up is okay, as long as the person is not American? No one will accuse you of being Christian.

    Perhaps there should be some clear U.S. policy. "We will not kill more than 30 innocent people at one time in pursuit of a suspected terrorist leader."
    I do not know if you have ever been targeted. If you have, I have found, the view on terrorists hiding in populations changes some. When my cousin was bombed, a number of people in the vicinity died or lost limbs. That makes you think. Especially toward the populations that allow the terrorists to hide. Also you would probably have thought about why it is important to make the business of terror deadly for the terrorists and those who allow them to do their work from within the populations camouflage.

    So yes. If it is me or my family or my friends? I would prefer 30 of them dead to one of mine. As a matter of fact, tell you children that you would prefer them dead to 30 in Yemen.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Sad to report that the real terrorists are men in business suits with American flag lapel pins prominently displayed, figuratively wrapped in American flags. Scoundrels and terrorists.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not know if you have ever been targeted. If you have, I have found, the view on terrorists hiding in populations changes some. When my cousin was bombed, a number of people in the vicinity died or lost limbs. That makes you think. Especially toward the populations that allow the terrorists to hide. Also you would probably have thought about why it is important to make the business of terror deadly for the terrorists and those who allow them to do their work from within the populations camouflage.

    So yes. If it is me or my family or my friends? I would prefer 30 of them dead to one of mine. As a matter of fact, tell you children that you would prefer them dead to 30 in Yemen.
    The "populations that allow them to hide"????

    So many in Boston are guilty of that, and would have been little more than "expendable collateral damage" had the military bombed the house the Tsarnaev brothers were hiding in before they set off for the Boston marathon????

    I didn't know terrorists wore special uniforms that made them stand out in crowds and alert others to their activities.

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

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    The "populations that allow them to hide"????

    So many in Boston are guilty of that, and would have been little more than "expendable collateral damage" had the military bombed the house the Tsarnaev brothers were hiding in before they set off for the Boston marathon????

    I didn't know terrorists wore special uniforms that made them stand out in crowds and alert others to their activities.
    I think that probably the Bostonians would have done something, had they known. My people certainly would have. And you will also find a significant difference to Yemen in the fact that your government can send police officers to Boston without heavy weapons.
    If the criminals hole up in Boston among the population, you can ring them off with police and wait. I mean, your argument is really hard to understand. There are so many differences in the situations....
    Yes! War is unpleasant and it kills people that are not criminal. Does that mean you would prefer your own family dead or maimed?

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    Re: Drone strikes killing more civilians than U.S. admits - human rights groups say

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I think that probably the Bostonians would have done something, had they known. My people certainly would have. And you will also find a significant difference to Yemen in the fact that your government can send police officers to Boston without heavy weapons.
    If the criminals hole up in Boston among the population, you can ring them off with police and wait. I mean, your argument is really hard to understand. There are so many differences in the situations....
    Yes! War is unpleasant and it kills people that are not criminal. Does that mean you would prefer your own family dead or maimed?
    We are NOT at war with most of the places we're using drones.

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