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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    The gov't has never presented anything so massive before either.
    Well it's settled then. Obamadon'tcare is our governments biggest failure of all time. Remember, brought to you by Obama and the Democrats.
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Much of your post is quite logical. I do take exception to that bolded portion above. As I understand it (but can't substantiate) the interface between HHS/IRS and the insurance companies directs the adjusted monthly premium and the insured pays merely the net. THEN at the end of the year the insured/IRS 'adjusts' for shortage/overage in the subsidy provided through income tax payment/refund. As I see it these relationships are were the PPACA will morph into perpetual disarray. I have read that some of the Ins Cos who decided to not participate in the exchange made their decision based on this arrangement...and I don't blame them.
    Oh yeah, no doubt...If your understanding is correct, then that leaves the door wide open for massive fraud! That would mean that there is NO verification component to what people can simply plug in and lock their premium support at...If that were me, I'd get the premium down to affordable levels and take the hit at the end of the year, and make some kind of payment arrangement for the shortfall...
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Much of your post is quite logical. I do take exception to that bolded portion above. As I understand it (but can't substantiate) the interface between HHS/IRS and the insurance companies directs the adjusted monthly premium and the insured pays merely the net. THEN at the end of the year the insured/IRS 'adjusts' for shortage/overage in the subsidy provided through income tax payment/refund. As I see it these relationships are were the PPACA will morph into perpetual disarray. I have read that some of the Ins Cos who decided to not participate in the exchange made their decision based on this arrangement...and I don't blame them.
    It depends on your income. Some are paid direct, others are done via the tax credit. Either way, you are on the hook for that subsidy if when you file your taxes the following year, it was incorrectly given to you.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh yeah, no doubt...If your understanding is correct, then that leaves the door wide open for massive fraud! That would mean that there is NO verification component to what people can simply plug in and lock their premium support at...If that were me, I'd get the premium down to affordable levels and take the hit at the end of the year, and make some kind of payment arrangement for the shortfall...
    EXACTLY! And to continue what of those who have 'gamed' the system and do not have the resources/income/tax return to overcome the shortage? Is Holder gonna go after them? How long can one appeal the 'decision' and how long does that last?...while the overage burdens the 'system'...
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't pretend to understand it all myself. But I do believe that Americans should contribute to their own healthcare in as much as they are able too. I am so glad that they have to, by law, now.

    Now, if we could do something to address the "professional welfare," people in our society, we might be able to get somewhere.

    In my widest dreams, I never thought it would be a democrat who would mandate people taking personal responsibility for their well being. That was always a republican kind of position to take. And yet, the republicans are the ones doing most of the whining.

    Old school democrats seem to have become modern day republicans.
    I'd bet you were a champ at that old game "twister".

    Getting people to take "personal responsibility" for their healthcare does not mean them being placed on Medicaid or having taxpayers pay most/some of the health insurance tab just for them existing. That's anything but taking personal responsibility.
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    I'd bet you were a champ at that old game "twister".

    Getting people to take "personal responsibility" for their healthcare does not mean them being placed on Medicaid or having taxpayers pay most/some of the health insurance tab just for them existing. That's anything but taking personal responsibility.
    Isn't that sad? His idea of someone "taking personal responsibility" is to make us pay for it.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't pretend to understand it all myself. But I do believe that Americans should contribute to their own healthcare in as much as they are able too. I am so glad that they have to, by law, now.

    Now, if we could do something to address the "professional welfare," people in our society, we might be able to get somewhere.

    In my widest dreams, I never thought it would be a democrat who would mandate people taking personal responsibility for their well being. That was always a republican kind of position to take. And yet, the republicans are the ones doing most of the whining.

    Old school democrats seem to have become modern day republicans.
    Personal responsibility is not something that can be mandated by law. People either have it to some degree or they don't. The best one can do to increase a sense of personal responsibility is by setting an example and by encouragement.

    Republicans are more about encouraging personal responsibility, while Democrats are hung up on the power of government to attempt to force personal responsibility. It doesn't surprise me one bit that the Obamacare mandate is the product of the Democrats.
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I have to say I'm beginning to wonder if this wasn't a set up? It was outsourced to a private firm, and even those that are accustomed to getting all their income from government contracts still seem to hate Obama, ACA, and resolving the budget crises with higher taxes on the rich. What better way to be pissy, than to sabotage the opening weeks of ACA.
    Awwwwww! Poor ol' Barry was sabotaged by the private sector! No doubt it's becaise he's black...lol'
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This stuff happens to any website that gets too many hits. It will all be settled out eventually and it's really no big deal.

    GTA 5's online component launched on the same day as the healthcare website and it's still having problems as well. This is a game that made a billion dollars in 3 days, and the online component launched 2 weeks after it initially launched. If Rockstar can't have a smooth roll out of their online component with such high traffic, then no one really can.
    Maybe thet should extend the mandate by a year?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    This stuff happens to any website that gets too many hits. It will all be settled out eventually and it's really no big deal.

    GTA 5's online component launched on the same day as the healthcare website and it's still having problems as well. This is a game that made a billion dollars in 3 days, and the online component launched 2 weeks after it initially launched. If Rockstar can't have a smooth roll out of their online component with such high traffic, then no one really can.
    Perfectly summarized.

    Obamacare is nothing more than a childish video game for dependents and couch potatoes.

    Thank you.

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