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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I don't pretend to understand it all myself. But I do believe that Americans should contribute to their own healthcare in as much as they are able too. I am so glad that they have to, by law, now.

    Now, if we could do something to address the "professional welfare," people in our society, we might be able to get somewhere.

    In my widest dreams, I never thought it would be a democrat who would mandate people taking personal responsibility for their well being. That was always a republican kind of position to take. And yet, the republicans are the ones doing most of the whining.

    Old school democrats seem to have become modern day republicans.

    Well, heh, heh....I wouldn't go that far Cap, but I see what you are saying....Now, the scenario I am talking about goes something like this....

    person A. has a full time, say $11.00 per hour job, with a young wife, and a new born child...He was getting a standard 80/20 BC/BS plan with a $1K per person deductible. His company informs him that they will no longer be offering insurance to any employees other than management due to costs. He then looks on the exchange for his state/area, and there is a plan that comes close, but the premium that was around $50 per week out of his check tax free, is now $150 per week, and a deductible that was $1K per person, is now $14K for the family...He will be subsidized, but only at the end of the year through a tax credit, leaving him with the entire cost up front until then. Hopefully, it will be like what Samhain said, and just paid directly on his behalf by the government, and bringing that premium down, but we don't know yet.


    1. Where in the hell, is he supposed to come up with an extra $400. per month?

    2. How is he paying less?

    3. Why shouldn't his choice be to for the moment to take the penalty, and pay out of pocket for the baby's visits...?
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Never fear.As I understand it they are now calling in teams of private businessmen to fix the problem with their government system, designed to replace a private system. Because government is 'the answer'...
    Yeah...Obama calls it a "tech surge". LOL!!
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Never fear.As I understand it they are now calling in teams of private businessmen to fix the problem with their government system, designed to replace a private system. Because government is 'the answer'...
    They are also blaming a Canadian company for the ballsup but why were they outsourcing this work when there are so many experts at this sort of thing in the US?
    Tech firm is behind glitchy healthcare exchange; shares rise anyway - latimes.com

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    The government is always so good at stuff. I'm sure this will be silky smooth in no time.

    $300 million for this website, and now we're hiring outside firms to come and basically re-do the whole site.

    And even once it's fixed, darn near nobody will sign up for it anyway. They don't pay their bills; why are they going to bother with a fine? They'll treat it like a parking ticket and throw it in the trash. Do you really think Obama is going to harass and jail his own constituents?

    Predictable and absolute disaster.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I have to say I'm beginning to wonder if
    this wasn't a set up? It was outsourced to a private firm, and even those that are accustomed to getting all their income from government contracts still seem to hate Obama, ACA, and resolving the budget crises with higher taxes on the rich. What better way to be pissy, than to sabotage the opening weeks of ACA.
    The pathology evidenced by the level of denial among Obama supporters is the only positive in all of this Democrat created misery.

    Quick, we have to name it. Any ideas ?

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The government is always so good at stuff.
    I'm sure this will be silky smooth in no time.

    $300 million for this website, and now we're hiring outside firms to come and basically re-do the whole site.

    And even once it's fixed, darn near nobody will sign up for it anyway. They don't pay their bills; why are they going to bother with a fine? They'll treat it like a parking ticket and throw it in the trash. Do you really think Obama is going to harass and jail his own constituents?

    Predictable and absolute disaster.
    I swear a Lib poster said the IT firm who did this did it on purppse....LOL ?

    300 Million....makes you wonder where the money really went.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The pathology evidenced by the level of denial among Obama supporters is the only positive in all of this Democrat created misery.

    Quick, we have to name it. Any ideas ?
    Except I'm not an Obama supporter or voter either time. I couldn't bring myself to vote for the lesser of evils. Glad the lesser of evils won, nonetheless
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are also blaming a Canadian company for the ballsup but why were they outsourcing this work when there are so many experts at this sort of thing in the US?
    Tech firm is behind glitchy healthcare exchange; shares rise anyway - latimes.com
    Its ALWAYS someone elses fault with the administration. One would think that a government so heavily invested in this program with such a broad reach and implication would have had this in place MONTHS ago with beta testing.

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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its ALWAYS someone elses fault with the administration. One would think that a government so heavily invested in this program with such a broad reach and implication would have had this in place MONTHS ago with beta testing.
    My recommendation has always been that Obama should have had the Oct rollout as the beta test. That's what smart developers do.

    Of course, he couldn't do that because he had set a hard deadline in the law and it would have been politically devastating to admit failure.

    You know, the most respected game developers are the ones who tell their customers the game will be released when it's ready...not by some specified date. Just another thing Obama could have learned if he had hired competent help.
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    Re: Consumer Reports: ‘Don’t even bother trying’ Obamacare website yet...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    My recommendation has always been that Obama should have had the Oct rollout as the beta test. That's what smart developers do.

    Of course, he couldn't do that because he had set a hard deadline in the law and it would have been politically devastating to admit failure.

    You know, the most respected game developers are the ones who tell their customers the game will be released when it's ready...not by some specified date. Just another thing Obama could have learned if he had hired competent help.
    I think he was relying on the mindless support of those that didnt bother to know WHAT they were supporting...but supported it anyway. Yay...they...ummm...'won'...

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