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School shooting this morning . . .

You aren't given a choice when a group of people kick in your door. Civilians are ALSO forced into dangerous situations by criminals. Your argument has been destroyed by the simple fact that if 7 rounds were enough, then the police would also only use 7 rounds.

No, not destroyed at all. Again, they do a different job, so there is no comparison. Show me one actual case where someone had to have more than seven rounds.
 
Not really. I've looked for one example and can't find one. Absent some proof, it's not an assumption, but something you can't prove happens.
So you are saying it cant happen. Ever.
That in the even of that need, just lay down and die. Throw your empty gun because some bureaucrat says you dont need more than 7 rounds.
 
No, not destroyed at all. Again, they do a different job, so there is no comparison. Show me one actual case where someone had to have more than seven rounds.

No they don't. If someone breaks in your home with the intent on doing you harm, you are placed in exactly the same scenario, except you are lacking the backup, and possibly the equipment thanks to people like you. You have been utterly destroyed. Time for a nap for you I think. :)
 
No, not destroyed at all. Again, they do a different job, so there is no comparison. Show me one actual case where someone had to have more than seven rounds.

Bull****, my father was a police officer in one of the deadlist cities in the US, Washington DC as a street cop and detective for 20 years. Shot one man. Because the man was drunk and ran him down with a car.
 
So you are saying it cant happen. Ever.
That in the even of that need, just lay down and die. Throw your empty gun because some bureaucrat says you dont need more than 7 rounds.

Im not sure you're laying down and dying with 7 rounds. Don't you think you're being a little hyperbolic here?
 
No they don't. If someone breaks in your home with the intent on doing you harm, you are placed in exactly the same scenario, except you are lacking the backup, and possibly the equipment thanks to people like you. You have been utterly destroyed. Time for a nap for you I think. :)

No, you're not. You are not defending others, and you don't have to follow them when they run away at the shooting.
 
Bull****, my father was a police officer in one of the deadlist cities in the US, Washington DC as a street cop and detective for 20 years. Shot one man. Because the man was drunk and ran him down with a car.

Has anyone run you down with a car?

Again, I linked this. Not one man's story, but the facts.
 
Im not sure you're laying down and dying with 7 rounds. Don't you think you're being a little hyperbolic here?
No not at all. I know of two police officers, one I went to highschool with that are dead because they ran out of ammo here in Palm Bay because they tried to stop a man with a Mini 14.
One was killed while reloading his revolver by having half a mag emptied into him.
Also a citizen engaged with a 1911 failed to stop him after exchanging with his 7 round weapon.
William Cruse is still on death row for that rampage at a shopping center.
 
Has anyone run you down with a car?

Again, I linked this. Not one man's story, but the facts.
Point is police work while dangerous by design is not much more dangerous than what a citizen may encounter. And you wish for us to be unarmed.
I asked you once and you dodged, whats up with the paratrooper avatar. You ex military? You took an oath to up hold and defend the constitution. The 2A is part of the constitution.
Even as someone that is still certified to be a police officer in this state, I see that the public being armed as well as I is still a good thing.
 
It's no longer a debate about Americans pretending to be cowboys running around on the streets with their guns anymore. Now it's about whether or not they are going to need large magazines in order to kill people sufficiently dead.

Eventually this has to lead to all Americans over the age of 5 being armed to the teeth with AR type rifles and all of them needing to carry them at all times to protect themselves against each other. What a joke the gungoons have made of your country now!
 
It's no longer a debate about Americans pretending to be cowboys running around on the streets with their guns anymore. Now it's about whether or not they are going to need large magazines in order to kill people sufficiently dead.

Eventually this has to lead to all Americans over the age of 5 being armed to the teeth with AR type rifles and all of them needing to carry them at all times to protect themselves against each other. What a joke the gungoons have made of your country now!
You really took the time to type that crap?
 
You really took the time to type that crap?

It was meant for you after I learned that you were a cop in Florida. I didn't expect anyone to actually own up to that after the reputation they have gotten themselves lately. It will be an interesting study to watch what you say in order to determine what makes a Florida cop tick.
 
It was meant for you after I learned that you were a cop in Florida. I didn't expect anyone to actually own up to that after the reputation they have gotten themselves lately. It will be an interesting study to watch what you say in order to determine what makes a Florida cop tick.
Law enforcement in Florida has a good rep. You cherry pick a few news articles and want to form blanket opinions. And I dont speak for all cops.
 
It's no longer a debate about Americans pretending to be cowboys running around on the streets with their guns anymore. Now it's about whether or not they are going to need large magazines in order to kill people sufficiently dead.

Eventually this has to lead to all Americans over the age of 5 being armed to the teeth with AR type rifles and all of them needing to carry them at all times to protect themselves against each other. What a joke the gungoons have made of your country now!

This country was BUILT on bullets, to ad lib a line from a movie.

Funny thing how most mass shootings occur in gun free zones. It's quite obvious that those areas are intentionally sought out by mass shooters because they KNOW people will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves against the rampage.
 
It's no longer a debate about Americans pretending to be cowboys running around on the streets with their guns anymore. Now it's about whether or not they are going to need large magazines in order to kill people sufficiently dead.

Eventually this has to lead to all Americans over the age of 5 being armed to the teeth with AR type rifles and all of them needing to carry them at all times to protect themselves against each other. What a joke the gungoons have made of your country now!

more aesop fox rantings in that post. we get it-you are mad that another country has different laws than those you live under. Tell us why your blatherings matter to us in the USA?
 
Us Texans ( you know the dumb asses down south) have schools that post signs alerting nut cases there are people in the school building that are armed and trained to shoot. Nuff said.

Best I can tell about Texas is a few rural schools have done something like that- course no telling if the teacher/principle can hit the broadside of a barn or will get the chance to do more than bleed... :roll:

Of late the shootings have been limited to those the shooter felt bullied by. I seriously doubt bangers givachit if some adult is carrying, hell they most likely know who those couple of adults are.

No, the target is a fellow student or two, won't take but a New York Minute to get the deed done. No one can stop the killing until it is over.
 
No...because as your example and words point out...fairy tales dont keep people safe.

...which confirms the postulate.... 25-50 deaths per year from public shootings are acceptable collateral casualties of unfettered gun rights.
 
That's a stupid argument. and what is even more stupid is that saving kids is not what motivates 99% of the people who lead the gun control movement.


...and you make that claim based upon what?

...and hardly a stupid argument, in fact, it well called you out. The correct answer would have been "yes, if I felt it would make a difference, I would be in favor of such; but I have yet to see any proposal that I felt would make a difference" But, no you just find the current level of public violence acceptable as you have confirmed you would not tolerate any limitation or regulation no matter what the consequences.

Sorry to expose you to your ugly truth.
 
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No not at all. I know of two police officers, one I went to highschool with that are dead because they ran out of ammo here in Palm Bay because they tried to stop a man with a Mini 14.
One was killed while reloading his revolver by having half a mag emptied into him.
Also a citizen engaged with a 1911 failed to stop him after exchanging with his 7 round weapon.
William Cruse is still on death row for that rampage at a shopping center.

How many many men do you stop? Again, a different job.
 
Point is police work while dangerous by design is not much more dangerous than what a citizen may encounter. And you wish for us to be unarmed.
I asked you once and you dodged, whats up with the paratrooper avatar. You ex military? You took an oath to up hold and defend the constitution. The 2A is part of the constitution.
Even as someone that is still certified to be a police officer in this state, I see that the public being armed as well as I is still a good thing.

No, much more dangerous. Few of us ever face anything. We don't stop people. We don't patrol. We don't go out and engage dangers.
 
You could very well be defending others, your family. Drugged out offenders a lot of times don't run away, and a lot of these guys are quite well armed and ready for a fight.

Phoenix Police Say a Spike in Home Invasions Is Drug Related - Home Invasion News | Home Invasion News

If if I said home invasions didn't happen this would be a good article. but it gives no insight as to how many rounds would have been needed to stop it. Again, no one has argued you can't defend yourself, except TD who says he can't with 7 rounds.
 
No, much more dangerous. Few of us ever face anything. We don't stop people. We don't patrol. We don't go out and engage dangers.
Just keep going round and round. You are not making an arguement just repeating your wrong headed idea.
 
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