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School shooting this morning . . .

Thom Paine said:
CRAZY cannot be legislated; EVIL cannot be legislated.

The onus lies with those individuals, school boards, and legislators who enact 'gun free zones'. Those zones become prime targets. It is good the assailant is dead.

Send up prayers for those children and the S.O.B.s who carry the weight of allowing this tragedy.

Hopefully the families and those children will find comfort and peace. Amen

Thom Paine
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CRUE CAB said:
Tragic, but no longer surprising.
Now let the partsenship begin.
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Slyfox696 said:
Tragic day. Reporting on these stories will always lead more and more to think to do the same thing, but at the same time, these are the type of things Americans need to know about. Such a tough situation all the way around.
Can't the pro gun crowd show a little respect and at least let the bodies cool before they turn this into a political issue?
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CRUE CAB said:
I cant find anyone turning it into a political issue.
And the left was dancing on the graves of the Newtown children before the last brass case hit the ground.
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It was a few posts above yours.
 
Boo Radley said:
No. But it happens often enough these days we might try to figure out why. It's not an either one extreme or the other Question btw.
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Why? Because parents are raising weak minded kids that dont know any other way to handle situations. Other than what they learn on Grand Theft Auto.
 
Boo Radley said:
They do as much in reverse, calling to arm people. Same coin, different side.

Now do you have an argument?
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I have never heard pro rights advocates call people to arms over a nut shooting kids in a school. At "worst" they argue that schools should not be a gun free zone where only killers are armed and thus will be able to kill innocents unchallenged.

the fact is-school shootings are incidents anti gun extremists LOOK FORWARD TO and crave in order to advance their disgusting agenda. Look at arch scumbag Feintard who had her anti gun schemes in the works for at least a year but waited until Newtown to unleash it.

SHE WANTS these sort of deaths because to the hysterical left, the end justify the ends and if a few kids die its ok as long as the hated NRA is punished.
 
CRUE CAB said:
You failed in that analogy. No one is forcing anyone to own a gun. But people like you are willing to have me forced to turn mine over.
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exactly, but the extremists will claim that owning a gun alone infringes on the right to life of children. One gun bannter made that argument already in this thread
 
CRUE CAB said:
Why? Because parents are raising weak minded kids that dont know any other way to handle situations. Other than what they learn on Grand Theft Auto.
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Oh, think that's too simplistic a way to look at it. Perhaps in discussion we might see another view. Maybe even a few different views.
 
TurtleDude said:
I have never heard pro rights advocates call people to arms over a nut shooting kids in a school. At "worst" they argue that schools should not be a gun free zone where only killers are armed and thus will be able to kill innocents unchallenged.

the fact is-school shootings are incidents anti gun extremists LOOK FORWARD TO and crave in order to advance their disgusting agenda. Look at arch scumbag Feintard who had her anti gun schemes in the works for at least a year but waited until Newtown to unleash it.

SHE WANTS these sort of deaths because to the hysterical left, the end justify the ends and if a few kids die its ok as long as the hated NRA is punished.
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Then you should taken that selective cotton out of your ears. There has been calls to arm teachers. Calls to arm students. Calls to have armed guards at schools.
 
CRUE CAB said:
You failed in that analogy. No one is forcing anyone to own a gun. But people like you are willing to have me forced to turn mine over.
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That's not what the analogy spoke to. It spoke to the call. Nothing more.

Have you had to turn your gun over? Seems to me you're over reacting to something not really happening.
 
Boo Radley said:
Then you should taken that selective cotton out of your ears. There has been calls to arm teachers. Calls to arm students. Calls to have armed guards at schools.
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I think I mentioned that. that is to make schools areas where criminals will be challenged. That is not a "call to arms" at all for the nation as a whole

tell us Boo-whose legitimate rights have pro rights advocates called for to be restricted in reaction to school shootings?
 
Boo Radley said:
Then you should taken that selective cotton out of your ears. There has been calls to arm teachers. Calls to arm students. Calls to have armed guards at schools.
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Anyone who tries to kill students/teachers in a school should be executed by a firing squad of 1st graders on the spot.



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Glen Contrarian said:
Who's blaming it on the guns? I'm just sayin', thanks to the conservative politicians who strive so hard to protect our Second Amendment FREEDOM against background checks or mandatory safety training (both of which most NRA members support, btw), any American - be he a violent felon, a sexual predator, a socio- or psychopath, or a domestic terrorist - can get himself any kinda gun he wants, and lo and behold, once more we hear American children giving us that unforgettable Sound of Second Amendment FREEDOM!

And don't you feel sorry for the Aussies and Canucks and Kiwis, being trapped in socialist tyrannies and all, 'cause their kids never, ever get to have our Great American Tradition of lockdowns at school, and they never ever get to raise their (terrified) voices in their own version of our Sound of Second Amendment FREEDOM!
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Frankly I dont give a **** about the Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, etc. I dont live in their country. I dont have their experiences, They dont have mine. Funny how that all works. Even when the Aussies were allowed fairly unfettered gun ownership they never had the same kind of problems we have with gangs and violence so to compare our experiences is in a word...stupid. Attempting to alter the rights (freedoms) of the vast majority of the owners of 300 million firearms because the very occasional bad actor is also...stupid. Ignoring the day to day violence and only celebrating the occasional school shooting in your 'cause' is not only stupid, its corrupt. Ignoring the reality for every 1 school shooting there are hundreds of beatings and stabbings that go ignored is equally stupid and corrupt.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Read what I was responding to and you will understand my comment.
And I will be the first to remind you that school shooting or not, it does not trump my 2A rights.
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You started it Crue as usual. You can't bring it up by making a prediction that libs will, attack them for it then when they give you **** for "going there" tell them they started it. fail
 
This is just a normal incident similar to a case I read 2 days ago when a 2 year old kid was killed while playing with a gun.
 
MaggieD said:
When we start putting the people in jail who allow guns to be accessible to teenagers, I'll support "more gun laws." We don't need more gun laws restricting ownership . . . we need more punishment for using them in commission of a felony.
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It's my understanding that punishment is not a deterrent.
 
Boo Radley said:
Oh, think that's too simplistic a way to look at it. Perhaps in discussion we might see another view. Maybe even a few different views.
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Of course its too simplistic, it dosent call for guns to be stripped from legal law abiding owners hands.
Sorry buddy, but it is that simplistic.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Of course its too simplistic, it dosent call for guns to be stripped from legal law abiding owners hands.
Sorry buddy, but it is that simplistic.
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I haven't called for that. I also asked if yours have been taken?
 
VanceMack said:
Frankly I dont give a **** about the Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, etc. I dont live in their country. I dont have their experiences, They dont have mine. Funny how that all works. Even when the Aussies were allowed fairly unfettered gun ownership they never had the same kind of problems we have with gangs and violence so to compare our experiences is in a word...stupid. Attempting to alter the rights (freedoms) of the vast majority of the owners of 300 million firearms because the very occasional bad actor is also...stupid. Ignoring the day to day violence and only celebrating the occasional school shooting in your 'cause' is not only stupid, its corrupt. Ignoring the reality for every 1 school shooting there are hundreds of beatings and stabbings that go ignored is equally stupid and corrupt.
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do you HONESTLY believe that the gun haters and gun restrictionists are ACTUALLY motivated by what a homicidal nut case does?
 
opendebate said:
It's my understanding that punishment is not a deterrent.
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Oh, I don't buy that. Parents start getting locked up for leaving loaded guns around for their 15/16-year-olds to shoot up schools? I think we'll see a definite run on gun safes.
 
opendebate said:
It's my understanding that punishment is not a deterrent.
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but restricting the rights of honest people will stop those who have already lost that right from abusing a right they don't have?
 
opendebate said:
You started it Crue as usual. You can't bring it up by making a prediction that libs will, attack them for it then when they give you **** for "going there" tell them they started it. fail
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What did I "start". By calling for the partisanship to begin. Am I wrong, just read the thread. The libs jumped on that bait instantly.
 
TurtleDude said:
I think I mentioned that. that is to make schools areas where criminals will be challenged. That is not a "call to arms" at all for the nation as a whole

tell us Boo-whose legitimate rights have pro rights advocates called for to be restricted in reaction to school shootings?
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By anyone who matters, very few. We can all find the outliners, but do you really want to be judge by those on your side at the extreme? There is virtually no chance of guns being banned in America. No chance at all.
 
Boo Radley said:
I haven't called for that. I also asked if yours have been taken?
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Have not been and will not be.
But how complicated do you need for it to be? Should we wait another five or so years before we start punishing the people that allow criminal access to firearms to minors to go out and setting a school yard score?
 
Boo Radley said:
By anyone who matters, very few. We can all find the outliners, but do you really want to be judge by those on your side at the extreme? There is virtually no chance of guns being banned in America. No chance at all.
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Yea, sure. You just keep telling yourself that.
 
CRUE CAB said:
Have not been and will not be.
But how complicated do you need for it to be? Should we wait another five or so years before we start punishing the people that allow criminal access to firearms to minors to go out and setting a school yard score?
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I have no trouble punishing careless parents. This should be part if the discussion. I'm just not sure why some don't make these arguments.
 
Boo Radley said:
By anyone who matters, very few. We can all find the outliners, but do you really want to be judge by those on your side at the extreme? There is virtually no chance of guns being banned in America. No chance at all.
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that was evasive and dishonest we heard that there was no chance of guns being banned in

California
New Jersey
New York
Connecticut
Hawaii
Maryland
Illinois
DC

and yet all of those places have banned significant numbers of guns for stupid and silly reasons

and I heard the same crap in England prior to Dunblane. and one nut case caused a collective garment voiding tsunami to the point that british olympic shooters cannot even practice in England.
 
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