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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

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    So according to you, I must be hamstrung in defense of my home and family.
    I've said nothing about you being hamstrung. Seriously, you can't even show where you would need more and you're talking about hamstrung? Do you think just saying that proves your point? Seriously?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    I've said nothing about you being hamstrung. Seriously, you can't even show where you would need more and you're talking about hamstrung? Do you think just saying that proves your point? Seriously?
    The true point, which some here are straying away from, is that....

    Whether you need them or not is irrelevant.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    I've said nothing about you being hamstrung. Seriously, you can't even show where you would need more and you're talking about hamstrung? Do you think just saying that proves your point? Seriously?
    What makes you think you know so much about what a person needs? What if the person lives in a gang-infested neighborhood and has experienced a home invasion. Most home invasions are perpetrated by multiple gang members. They will hit you, rape you, torture you and even kill you. Why do you want to limit the fire power a citizen has to protect him or herself against such animals?

    Please explain why you would be against a law-abiding person who has never committed a crime owning weaponry capable of holding more than 7 rounds of ammunition at a time.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    I've said nothing about you being hamstrung. Seriously, you can't even show where you would need more and you're talking about hamstrung? Do you think just saying that proves your point? Seriously?

    Lets see how honest you are

    1) do you admit or deny that a law abiding citizen cannot predict the nature of a future criminal attack against him

    2) do you admit or deny that there are some cases of criminal attack that may need an armed homeowner or citizen on the street to need more than 7 rounds in his gun

    If you admit yes to #1 and #2 your argument completely loses any semblance of merit you think it might have

    if you deny either you are being dishonest



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
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    I've said nothing about you being hamstrung. Seriously, you can't even show where you would need more and you're talking about hamstrung? Do you think just saying that proves your point? Seriously?
    What do I have to show? I didnt know I had to prove a need to exercise a right.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What makes you think you know so much about what a person needs? What if the person lives in a gang-infested neighborhood and has experienced a home invasion. Most home invasions are perpetrated by multiple gang members. They will hit you, rape you, torture you and even kill you. Why do you want to limit the fire power a citizen has to protect him or herself against such animals?

    Please explain why you would be against a law-abiding person who has never committed a crime owning weaponry capable of holding more than 7 rounds of ammunition at a time.

    Oh he won't take a concrete stand and say he is against you having that . Rather his SOP is to argue you don't need it and he will argue he doesn't need it and thus insinuates you are irrational or paranoid in believing you need something. Its been his standard attack on gun rights for all the time he has been on this board.

    we get "I have never felt a need to carry a gun"

    well what is the point of such a silly argument being projected onto others?

    its like saying I have never felt the need to have a mammogram or a pap smear

    or to get a rabies shot



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh he won't take a concrete stand and say he is against you having that . Rather his SOP is to argue you don't need it and he will argue he doesn't need it and thus insinuates you are irrational or paranoid in believing you need something. Its been his standard attack on gun rights for all the time he has been on this board.

    we get "I have never felt a need to carry a gun"

    well what is the point of such a silly argument being projected onto others?

    its like saying I have never felt the need to have a mammogram or a pap smear

    or to get a rabies shot
    Exactly. It's like me saying my risk of breast cancer is low, so why bother to get a mammogram ever.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your parameters are idiotic. EVEN IF THERE Is one chance in a million that someone will need more than seven rounds that alone justifies them carrying more because as I have noted, you cannot point to any deleterious impact of them carrying more.

    so your argument-as many have pointed out-is nothing more than mental masturbation or contrarian silliness. Since there is absolutely no harm prove by having more and there are situations were people have needed more than 7 rounds, that alone means our argument is specious
    I'm nit sure there's one in a million. But you said clearly that you could not defend yourself with only seven rounds. To support that kind of claim, you have show seven rounds are needed a significant number of times.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    again there are cases of people needing more than 7 rounds. that alone destroys your argument
    I've asked you to show me cases. Give some stats.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm nit sure there's one in a million. But you said clearly that you could not defend yourself with only seven rounds. To support that kind of claim, you have show seven rounds are needed a significant number of times.
    You are lying again. You have been around long enough to have seen my description of when I shot a mugger-one shot ended the problem. I said I cannot predict what criminals decide to do and how many are in a break in or a street mugging or riot

    I don't need to show a significant number of times. I cannot recount in the last 50 years when Cincinnati cops had to deal with more than 2 perps at once so using your moronic argument, they shouldn't be carrying anything more than 6 shot revolvers but their "studies" found that 17 round SW semi autos were better

    SIGNIFICANT to me means if there is even a remote chance I might need more I should carry them

    I see you cannot answer my question. I didn't expect you to

    your argument is pathetic and is nothing more than contrarian mental masturbation.

    since you cannot establish any reason NOT to have 17 or so rounds in your gun, that destroys your silly bit of baiting



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