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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    It should be obvious, but ok..

    Muscle building requires a positive energy balance, meaning you have to take in more calories than you burn to build muscle. At most your body can build a half pound a muscle per week, so a safe bet not doing any more calculation that would call for me to know information such as your age, height, sex, weight and activity level, I would say an extra 500 calories.

    Is that reason good enough for you? In short, your body demands extra fuel to build muscle.
    No, though I like smart ass. Reasons for needing excessive amounts of ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Need doesn't matter.

    Thus thinking and/or pretending you need it doesn't matter.


    Just because you don't need something, doesn't mean you shouldn't have a right to it.
    And I haven't said otherwise. But the soundness of the reasoning is questionable when you link it to need, as TD did.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm saying it isn't a matter of need at all.

    There is no reason to limit the round capacity, so no limits are necessary.

    We don't talk about other rights this way...
    There's no "oh, you don't need to have freedom of speech for THAT many topics...seven topics maximum per hour, no more". Just because you don't need that degree of speech freedom, does not mean you are LIMITED to that.


    It's back-ass-wards logic.
    There are limits in free speech as well. Rightly so too. But, I'm not arguing need in terms of the law. I'm arguing the rationale behind saying you need more. Not the law, but TD's rationale.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, though I like smart ass. Reasons for needing excessive amounts of ammo.
    Muscle building is a good enough reason to say there is situations where it is needed to take in more calories than what is needed to be healthy. As for what qualifies as excessive amounts of ammo, that is simply a matter of opinion.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There are limits in free speech as well. Rightly so too. But, I'm not arguing need in terms of the law. I'm arguing the rationale behind saying you need more. Not the law, but TD's rationale.
    So you're saying you do not think a situation calling for the use of more than 7 rounds of ammunition will ever arise, or at least will arise so rarely that it is not necessary to carry a clip containing more ammunition?
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, so I'm arguing that 7 rounds is not always going to be enough. Unless you can predict future events, then you have no argument.
    Just out of curiosity...how exactly is mag capacity relevant in this story?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just out of curiosity...how exactly is mag capacity relevant in this story?
    The discussion has strayed a bit.

    Using the term "a bit" loosely.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, linked statistical and expert information. I told you to read it.
    It didn't prove any of the stuff you claimed it did. If there is a chance ONE citizen might need more than seven rounds your argument falls apart. And most cops never get involved in a shooting.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I'm saying it isn't a matter of need at all.

    There is no reason to limit the round capacity, so no limits are necessary.

    We don't talk about other rights this way...
    There's no "oh, you don't need to have freedom of speech for THAT many topics...seven topics maximum per hour, no more". Just because you don't need that degree of speech freedom, does not mean you are LIMITED to that.


    It's back-ass-wards logic.
    freedom loving people need to be well armed when the country is full of people who want to determine what they "NEED" when it comes to rights



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Tragic day. Reporting on these stories will always lead more and more to think to do the same thing, but at the same time, these are the type of things Americans need to know about. Such a tough situation all the way around.
    Can't the pro gun crowd show a little respect and at least let the bodies cool before they turn this into a political issue?
    Sadly, the same can be said for the anti-gun crowd. Our country has no empathy anymore. It seems like, no matter how heinous, we have become numb to everything.
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