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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    yeah, 'cuz that's America! The land of Second Amendment FREEDOM!

    "whether 'tis nobler to contain one's anger at others and walk away in frustration, or to take up 2nd Amendment firearms and, by shooting at them and anyone around them, end them!"
    Sure...you can blame it on the guns (as long as you ignore the stabbings and beatings part). Or...you can address...you know...the problems...

    Nah...that would mean you might have to actually get in and deal with those that are committing the vast majority of violent acts. Better you just continue to spew mindless rhetoric.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Probably the FBI.
    Al Capone was stopped by the IRS.

    Read something sometime.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    We sure do. And once the dead are buried they are soon forgotten as even less.

    Of course, as long as its not us or one of our own.
    No, we certainly have rules and enforcement to punish those who infringe upon the rights of others. But by very virtue of freedom, there is danger and uncertainty.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Sure...you can blame it on the guns (as long as you ignore the stabbings and beatings part). Or...you can address...you know...the problems...

    Nah...that would mean you might have to actually get in and deal with those that are committing the vast majority of violent acts. Better you just continue to spew mindless rhetoric.
    Who's blaming it on the guns? I'm just sayin', thanks to the conservative politicians who strive so hard to protect our Second Amendment FREEDOM against background checks or mandatory safety training (both of which most NRA members support, btw), any American - be he a violent felon, a sexual predator, a socio- or psychopath, or a domestic terrorist - can get himself any kinda gun he wants, and lo and behold, once more we hear American children giving us that unforgettable Sound of Second Amendment FREEDOM!

    And don't you feel sorry for the Aussies and Canucks and Kiwis, being trapped in socialist tyrannies and all, 'cause their kids never, ever get to have our Great American Tradition of lockdowns at school, and they never ever get to raise their (terrified) voices in their own version of our Sound of Second Amendment FREEDOM!
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, we certainly have rules and enforcement to punish those who infringe upon the rights of others. But by very virtue of freedom, there is danger and uncertainty.
    "But by very virtue of freedom, there is danger and uncertainty."

    And EVERY nation that has what conservatives want - a small government, low effective taxes, and little or no regulation - is a third-world nation with LOTS of 'danger and uncertainty'. But I digress.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Tragic day. Reporting on these stories will always lead more and more to think to do the same thing, but at the same time, these are the type of things Americans need to know about. Such a tough situation all the way around.
    Can't the pro gun crowd show a little respect and at least let the bodies cool before they turn this into a political issue?
    Like the anti gun scum in the press and congress did after Newtown? We gun owners aren't trying to rape anyone's rights. And us exercising our rights in no way has anything to do with someone committing felony murder and then suicide. The kid violated several major league federal and state felony statutes.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    If the anti-gun crowd didn't use every newsworthy shooting as a way to get gun control increased, your point might be well-taken. As it is, the issue will always be politicized.
    The militant anti gun extremists look forward to these sort of incidents. They use the blood of innocents to fuel their jihad against honest people owning guns.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I did. My answer remains the same. Not sure where the confusion is.

    And I'll be the first to remind you the right to life of the teacher killed trumps your 2A rights.

    But let's not bog down into that now. As I said, the last thing we need is for you pro gun people to make this into a political issue right now (especially considering how limited the details are at the moment). Let's respect the fallen first, and then we can use the 2353272078509 different threads to discuss guns.
    Lets examine the seething fascist nonsense in the bold BS above

    1) you believe that the rights of millions should be limited based on the specious and faith based HOPE that destroying their rights will actually prevent someone from killing people even though the laws that make murder the most serious offense going, did not

    2) lets extrapolate the idiocy of your claim to other things

    a) Joe is accused of killing his ex girlfriend. Now he is not just a citizen in general but the indicted defendant

    b) using your logic he does not get

    1) a right to counsel-after all the rights of innocent victims trump that

    2) to be free from police beating a confession out of him in violation of the constitution because again, his rights not be tortured is inferior to the right of his dead ex to be alive

    3) he should be denied bail because once again his right to reasonable bail or at least a bail hearing is inferior to that right to life

    4) and why the hell should he be presumed innocent? you don't want gun owners to get that presumption so why should the mope actually indicted for the crime get that as well

    ITs people who want to rape our rights that justify those of us who aren't going to piss away the Bill of Rights to be well armed. One day people who think like you might actually try to implement the statist horrorshow you yearn to have imposed on the rest of us



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, we certainly have rules and enforcement to punish those who infringe upon the rights of others. But by very virtue of freedom, there is danger and uncertainty.
    Ah - that indeed must be a comfort to those who died being in the wrong place at the wrong time and taking the wrong bullet fired by the wrong person wielding the wrong gun.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Damn right. I'll be happy trade a few dead kids for my right to play with really fun toys.
    what a moronic dichotomy. IF you actually think doing so, then you probably shouldn't own anything that resembles a firearm

    maybe you should get castrated because some idiot had knocked up 6 girls in four states

    maybe you should be prohibited from driving-it might bring back 100 people that are killed every week by drunk drivers

    maybe you should be banned from prescription medication because we can trade your health for some people who became addicted to oxy.

    but here is the bottom line. You can do whatever you want with your "toys"

    just don't try to argue that we ought to give up our rights so people like you can pretend you have done something that matters and thus you can feel good about yourselves.



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