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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    between us I am the one who actually understands using guns defensively. You on the other hand have admitted you have no clue about guns because you don't "need" one.

    so when you argue how many rounds someone needs for self defense it is akin to a faith healer telling a licensed Medical Doctor what sort of pharmaceuticals he needs to treat an infection. You just are speculating because you don't understand the issue

    and since you don't exercise your second amendment rights, you really have no clue how certain democrat party laws infringe on something you don't use

    so you can make up stuff or speculate but you cannot talk from personal knowledge.
    Only in your mind.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    SO...finally...now we know. As suspected...NOT a white kid...NOT from a middle to upper home...well..certainly nothing to make hay abou. Guess you have to let this one die...

    Oh...and isnt it interesting that while the story in Sparks began with "GUN kills two at school shooting in Sparks Nevada", in Massachusetts, the story is "14 year old stabs his teacher"

    Apparently knives, unlike firearms, lack the ability to independently commit murder.

    Friend: Nevada Shooter Typical Kid, Not Loner - ABC News

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only in your mind.
    What's that supposed to mean? He's right. He is experienced with firearms, and you are not, so when you talk about guns the source must be considered as amateur.

    You can't know how many rounds it would take to somebody who is intent on attacking you. I've read plenty of stories of people who were high on drugs and shot 6 times or more before they go down. What if there is more than one home invader? What if there were 8 of them, and you only have 7 rounds? Then what smartie pants?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Only in your mind.
    another wonderful response there.

    tell us why anyone should value your opinions that 7 rounds is enough when

    1) you admit you don't "need" a gun

    2) every major league law enforcement agency, private security company and the military has switched from 6 shot revolvers or 7 shot pistols to 15-17 shot pistols for self defensive weapons



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What's that supposed to mean? He's right. He is experienced with firearms, and you are not, so when you talk about guns the source must be considered as amateur.

    You can't know how many rounds it would take to somebody who is intent on attacking you. I've read plenty of stories of people who were high on drugs and shot 6 times or more before they go down. What if there is more than one home invader? What if there were 8 of them, and you only have 7 rounds? Then what smartie pants?
    Democrat turds like andrew Cuomo-in reaction to a convicted killer killing firemen with 30 shot rifles-decided to limit honest citizens to 7 rounds and apparently Boo believes Cuomo was all wise and knowing



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    What's that supposed to mean? He's right. He is experienced with firearms, and you are not, so when you talk about guns the source must be considered as amateur.

    You can't know how many rounds it would take to somebody who is intent on attacking you. I've read plenty of stories of people who were high on drugs and shot 6 times or more before they go down. What if there is more than one home invader? What if there were 8 of them, and you only have 7 rounds? Then what smartie pants?
    Which is not the point and has never been the point (BTW, so am I. Expert shot in the military and have done enough hunting to be experienced).

    And yes, As I have worked on the streets with law enforcement, I do know something about it. The trouble on the internet is that our experiences are not clear to everyone. And frankly, if you've put seven bullets in someone, even someone on PCP, that person's threat level is greatly diminished even if still standing. In the real world, we are just not having the type of situations that require being extensively armed. And even if there was more than one home invader, the second you shoot one the others disperse. You can predict human behavior rather accurately. They don't just keep coming once shooting starts.

    I'm not sure where you guys live, but in Atlanta GA, and Jacksonville Fla, I never needed to be armed at all, let alone to the teeth. Are you in a war zone?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    another wonderful response there.

    tell us why anyone should value your opinions that 7 rounds is enough when

    1) you admit you don't "need" a gun

    2) every major league law enforcement agency, private security company and the military has switched from 6 shot revolvers or 7 shot pistols to 15-17 shot pistols for self defensive weapons
    Well, if you gave some content, I'd response like wise. But mostly you just insult and rant.

    I don't need a gun. Don't know anyone who does. And having a gun is not a sign of intelligence. You prove that. And we are not law enforcement, security, or any thing where dangerous situations are our job. Remember, I provided links on this earlier.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Which is not the point and has never been the point (BTW, so am I. Expert shot in the military and have done enough hunting to be experienced).

    And yes, As I have worked on the streets with law enforcement, I do know something about it. The trouble on the internet is that our experiences are not clear to everyone. And frankly, if you've put seven bullets in someone, even someone on PCP, that person's threat level is greatly diminished even if still standing. In the real world, we are just not having the type of situations that require being extensively armed. And even if there was more than one home invader, the second you shoot one the others disperse. You can predict human behavior rather accurately. They don't just keep coming once shooting starts.

    I'm not sure where you guys live, but in Atlanta GA, and Jacksonville Fla, I never needed to be armed at all, let alone to the teeth. Are you in a war zone?
    what destroys your silly OPINION that 7 rounds is enough is that no one who is expert in this field agrees with you when it comes to their own employees and there is no credible studies that indicates people without disqualifying characteristics (to own weapons) are more likely to cause increased levels of mayhem with police sized magazines.

    so your opinion has no validity on magazine capacity and runs contrary to everyone who understands this issue

    all you have supporting the nonsense you have spewed is that of some leftwing Democrat pimps like Cuomo



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what destroys your silly OPINION that 7 rounds is enough is that no one who is expert in this field agrees with you when it comes to their own employees and there is no credible studies that indicates people without disqualifying characteristics (to own weapons) are more likely to cause increased levels of mayhem with police sized magazines.

    so your opinion has no validity on magazine capacity and runs contrary to everyone who understands this issue

    all you have supporting the nonsense you have spewed is that of some leftwing Democrat pimps like Cuomo
    yes, an apple is different than an orange. Repeating that is not a rebuttal.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Well, if you gave some content, I'd response like wise. But mostly you just insult and rant.

    I don't need a gun. Don't know anyone who does. And having a gun is not a sign of intelligence. You prove that. And we are not law enforcement, security, or any thing where dangerous situations are our job. Remember, I provided links on this earlier.
    you don't need most things you own

    I needed a gun when I was mugged

    and civilians who are not law enforcement make up most of the victims of violent crime



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