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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The surprise attack does sound good in theory, but if it doesn't work and they kill your dog? Then what?
    Oh, that's easy. I shoot him with my .38.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course not. Faster than human reaction. And not nearly as nervous. It's actually difficult to shoot under pressure.
    Nervous? That depends entirely upon who you are dealing with.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A trained dog is something else again, though. A home watchdog, I agree with you. Once they've heard the dog bark (mine sounds like Barry White and weighs 125#) and decide they're coming in anyway? They're armed and ready to neutralize your dog. Actually, most of the time when we're gone, we keep Josh locked in a bedroom figuring that might save his life. Just one of those i's I tend to dot.

    I remember a soldier who fought in Korea telling me that they liked the big dogs . . . they'd charge right at you and it was easy to kill them. The little ankle biters? Notsomuch.

    But if I had a trained guard dog in my home who didn't bother to bark?? Then, Turtle, I think he just might get his groove on.
    Dopers often cut the vocal cords of their attack dogs so you don't hear them coming There is a tactic to deal with that though. you bring a K9 unit and it alerts you to the attack dogs. Then you shoot them with a suppressed 22 pistol. the K9 guys I know often carry such things



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the goal is to have as many options as possible. we live in what is now suburbia developed from farmland and we still have a farm and our home sits in the middle of a 26 acre lot with cornfields on one side, horsefields on another and the 5 acre backyards of three other homes (one is horse field the other two is scrub brush and briars) on the other sides. our dogs bark the minute someone drives up the driveway and get within 50-80 yards of the house. we have reinforced doors and heavy gun safes in areas that we are likely to have to use them as cover in any sort of break in

    DOGS ARE A GREAT EARLY WARNING SYSTEM

    so you can get a GUN and SHOOT someone who would break in
    I don't disagree. But with the dog, you likely won't need the second option, and if do, a bullet or two would be enough.

    Like I said, I've lived 55 years in some of the roughest areas in the country with no need to be armed. None. So I dint know what country you live in or why you think you so much overkill. But self defense shouldn't take more than seven rounds.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Nervous? That depends entirely upon who you are dealing with.
    True enough. But high quality home invaders I suspect is quite rare indeed.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Of course not. Faster than human reaction. And not nearly as nervous. It's actually difficult to shoot under pressure.
    dogs have to get close to hurt you. right in knife range

    most attack dogs are wide open for a knife counter based on how they are trained. the ones that aren't cost thousands and thousands of dollars



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Dopers often cut the vocal cords of their attack dogs so you don't hear them coming There is a tactic to deal with that though. you bring a K9 unit and it alerts you to the attack dogs. Then you shoot them with a suppressed 22 pistol. the K9 guys I know often carry such things
    I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you try to have as many options as you can. Best I could hope for with Josh? A brave boy who'd step up when others would step back? Would be that he bought me time. Sad to even think about. I'd probably try to protect him. *Shrug*

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I don't disagree. But with the dog, you likely won't need the second option, and if do, a bullet or two would be enough.

    Like I said, I've lived 55 years in some of the roughest areas in the country with no need to be armed. None. So I dint know what country you live in or why you think you so much overkill. But self defense shouldn't take more than seven rounds.
    Sorry, but people don't to wager their safety and security on what YOU feel is enough.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    how many people have such dogs. I bet less than one in 250 dog owners. I am up on this top, my sister in law raises dogs for police departments and is a trainer. her dogs sell for several thousand dollars. After the cops get done with final training-they cost more than a decent used car.
    Your most likely correct. But I'm not arguing most have them. Only that they are a valid and often better option.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    True enough. But high quality home invaders I suspect is quite rare indeed.
    That's what gangs do, among other criminal activities.

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