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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    only when criminals think that dogs will alert an armed homeowner. dogs are incredibly easy to kill by armed people. knives, clubs, guns. ASP Batons are particularly nasty against all but the best trained attack dogs. A Randall Model One is absolutely brutal-I saw a guy attacked by a doper's big Dobie and he had a Randall. He literally filleted the dog in under three seconds
    Yes, a dog is a great warning system, and that's about it.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Dogs can also be a valuable asset to home owners. Any dog that bark at strangers brings unwanted attention to a thief. Larger dogs can even discourage an intruder from entering your yard or home.

    LCG Police Department-Home Burglary Information

    A security dog is an incredible asset to have in a school. It not only acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters, but also, if needed to be called into action, is right there on the premises to neutralize that threat.


    Security dogs are unlike any other measure in that it is the one tool that cannot be taken from you and used against you. Pepper spray, stun guns, batons, firearms, weapons etc. can all be taken from you and then used against you. They can be stolen or lost, they can malfunction, and they can cause more problems if they are in incompetent hands that donít have adequate experience using them. A security dog however, will not have any of these issues.
    K-9s vs Guns: A Special Operations Member Weighs In On Successful History of Security Dogs And Their Use In Schools | Intel | Command Posts

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes, a dog is a great warning system, and that's about it.
    Nope. The one invader we had while we were gone de-robbed the young man and held him until we got home. He was in no mood to be a threat.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    oh the hysteria has gone viral-carrying the same 17 shot GLOCK pistol that is issued to the DEA is now an ARSENAL. I have shown you that experts have determined what is the best weapon for somewhat trained cops to use in self defense

    you cannot claim that every cop is going to face MORE danger than EVERY other CIVILIAN

    dogs are great if someone is worried you have a gun and have been alerted by the dog. If I know you don't I will walk right through that dog and you are gonna be toast if I am some badass looking to do you. A dog is worthless against someone with a knife or a gun willing to kill
    Stop the emotionalism and just answer the question.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope. The one invader we had while we were gone de-robbed the young man and held him until we got home. He was in no mood to be a threat.
    That's luck. If he had a gun, he would have just shot and killed the dog.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as opposed to gun hating liberals telling her she doesn't need the same gun a cop has determined is the best for self defense?
    And there is nothing inbetween?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Dogs can also be a valuable asset to home owners. Any dog that bark at strangers brings unwanted attention to a thief. Larger dogs can even discourage an intruder from entering your yard or home.

    LCG Police Department-Home Burglary Information

    A security dog is an incredible asset to have in a school. It not only acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters, but also, if needed to be called into action, is right there on the premises to neutralize that threat.


    Security dogs are unlike any other measure in that it is the one tool that cannot be taken from you and used against you. Pepper spray, stun guns, batons, firearms, weapons etc. can all be taken from you and then used against you. They can be stolen or lost, they can malfunction, and they can cause more problems if they are in incompetent hands that don’t have adequate experience using them. A security dog however, will not have any of these issues.
    K-9s vs Guns: A Special Operations Member Weighs In On Successful History of Security Dogs And Their Use In Schools | Intel | Command Posts
    Now that's something most people could get behind. If they could train dogs to attack with evasive maneuvers, they might have a chance of getting to a shooter . . . without that, and with an automatic weapon, we'd just be sending it to its death.

    An armed LEO and his dog might be a feasible answer to security issues even as they exist now in Chicago schools, as an example. Not even talking about shootings.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    only when criminals think that dogs will alert an armed homeowner. dogs are incredibly easy to kill by armed people. knives, clubs, guns. ASP Batons are particularly nasty against all but the best trained attack dogs. A Randall Model One is absolutely brutal-I saw a guy attacked by a doper's big Dobie and he had a Randall. He literally filleted the dog in under three seconds
    Doesn't matter your speculation, the dog alone deters.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Dogs can also be a valuable asset to home owners. Any dog that bark at strangers brings unwanted attention to a thief. Larger dogs can even discourage an intruder from entering your yard or home.

    LCG Police Department-Home Burglary Information

    A security dog is an incredible asset to have in a school. It not only acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters, but also, if needed to be called into action, is right there on the premises to neutralize that threat.


    Security dogs are unlike any other measure in that it is the one tool that cannot be taken from you and used against you. Pepper spray, stun guns, batons, firearms, weapons etc. can all be taken from you and then used against you. They can be stolen or lost, they can malfunction, and they can cause more problems if they are in incompetent hands that don’t have adequate experience using them. A security dog however, will not have any of these issues.
    K-9s vs Guns: A Special Operations Member Weighs In On Successful History of Security Dogs And Their Use In Schools | Intel | Command Posts
    This is all true, but a dog is ultimately just as vulnerable as a human being when the perpetrator is armed.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's luck. If he had a gun, he would have just shot and killed the dog.
    I doubt it. My shepherds might have taken his arm off.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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