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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    You really should keep discussions relating to Australias gun Laws out of your arguments.

    You have a different culture and different laws there than we have here in Australia. Australians have never had a constitutional right to own firearms. I don't own a gun nor do i know anyone that does (other than law enforcement personel). The average Australian has never owned a firearm. You simply cannot compare the two Countries and it constantly amazes me when I see posters here that do.

    Most of us are reasonable people and understand that America has a great history of an armed populace with the majority of gun owners being responsible law abiding citizens.

    Carry on and thanks for listening.

    It amazes me how few people consider culture to be the major factor.

    Legality doesn't determine who owns a gun. Desire does.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Even more amazing is the Nevada Police openly stating they may bring charges against the parents.....which as far as I know Nevada doesn't have any law concerning intervention over a Child using a firearm. So how can they be stating they could bring the Parents up on charges. Especially if they didn't know the kid took the Weapon in the first place?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Another teacher found dead in Danvers, Mass, behind the school. A 14-year-old student is in custody.

    14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher, Danvers schools closed for investigation | Fox News

    No gun involved apparently for those of you who think guns act alone.
    Im certain the gun actually killed her and ran off.

    Dead student but no gun = not worthy of national attention and certainly doesnt merit a thread on DP.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Even more amazing is the Nevada Police openly stating they may bring charges against the parents.....which as far as I know Nevada doesn't have any law concerning intervention over a Child using a firearm. So how can they be stating they could bring the Parents up on charges. Especially if they didn't know the kid took the Weapon in the first place?
    If they don't have a law that holds parents responsible for their under-aged child shooting someone with their gun, they should. If they prove the weapon came from his parents' home? Somebody ought to go to jail.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im certain the gun actually killed her and ran off.

    Dead student but no gun = not worthy of national attention and certainly doesnt merit a thread on DP.
    There is no cause of death in that case yet, but there are plenty of others like this one.

    A 24-year-old Phoenix woman is dead after a fatal hug with her 18-year-old boyfriend. The victim, identified as Amanda Mosley, was shot by a gun that accidentally discharged after being tucked down the front of the teenager’s pants.

    Mosley reportedly complained the gun was “making her uncomfortable,” and as the young man removed it from the waistband of his pants, the firearm misfired and shot her. She was rushed to the hospital where she died from her injuries.
    Girlfriend Dies in 'Hug of Death' When Teen Makes Fatal Mistake | CafeMom

    I wonder if there will be any charges filed in this case. It seems that guns keep going off on there own.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If they don't have a law that holds parents responsible for their under-aged child shooting someone with their gun, they should. If they prove the weapon came from his parents' home? Somebody ought to go to jail.
    What would you charge them with, and would you also advocate for parents being jailed in every incident of, say, an accidental poisoning?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There is no cause of death in that case yet, but there are plenty of others like this one.


    Girlfriend Dies in 'Hug of Death' When Teen Makes Fatal Mistake | CafeMom

    I wonder if there will be any charges files in this case. It seems that guns keep going off on there own.
    Im sorry...thats just silly. The 'gun' did not "accidentally discharge". It may have been discharged accidentally...but it didnt go off by itself.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    What would you charge them with, and would you also advocate for parents being jailed in every incident of, say, an accidental poisoning?
    I'm not familiar enough with criminal code to suggest the actual charges. Gross negligence? I don't know. But something. And, if my child had been one of those injured? I'd own their home.

    As to your accidental poisoning question? If you leave rat poison next to the Cheerios, and your 2-year-old dies? You should go to jail for manslaughter. Or something. This is called personal responsibility. We need to embrace it.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not familiar enough with criminal code to suggest the actual charges. Gross negligence? I don't know. But something. And, if my child had been one of those injured? I'd own their home.

    As to your accidental poisoning question? If you leave rat poison next to the Cheerios, and your 2-year-old dies? You should go to jail for manslaughter. Or something. This is called personal responsibility. We need to embrace it.
    I agree that in all those cases there ought to be some criminal charges. I dont know if prison is the answer, but certainly something. As I said throughout the whole Sandy Hook ordeal...it is tragic that instead of having the discussion about adequately securing firearms, the rhetoric jumped straight to assault rifle bans, magazine caps, waiting periods, and background checks.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    As I said throughout the whole Sandy Hook ordeal...it is tragic that instead of having the discussion about adequately securing firearms, the rhetoric jumped straight to assault rifle bans, magazine caps, waiting periods, and background checks.
    I completely agree.

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