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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You can keep making those silly claims and pretend all you want that you have countered my argument and anyone who sees this exchange sees you are without any ammunition.

    You spewed what is a reasonable limit on magazine capacity based on WHAT


    You have been impotent to tell us why honest people-ones you pretend you agree should be allowed to own guns-should be so limited

    I am waiting for you to tell us where you found 7 to be a magical number

    1) was it based on your extensive study of gun fights

    2) training with experts in the field

    3) your thirty years as a world class competitive shooter in disciplines that require uber-fast reloads of semi automatic pistols

    or was it something you just picked because some turd in NYS decided he'd restrict honest people a bit more than his prior office holders had done

    come on Boo-with all that arrogance you spew towards us pro gun posters and your dismissive sanctimonious comments towards us, we want to see where you pulled that number from and why it is logical
    You're still fighting things I never said. No where did I say any number was magic. I said it wasn't a hardship or significant. So, once again, do try to address what has actually been said.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You're still fighting things I never said. No where did I say any number was magic. I said it wasn't a hardship or significant. So, once again, do try to address what has actually been said.
    we have seen a rather large amount of anti gun posts that are dishonest or evasive and when called on it, the poster using the evasive nature of his comments that clearly implied a position to argue that it was not really their position. You clearly said that it was ok for citizens to be limited to 7 shots. Your posts were devoid of factual support and your defense is dishonest.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    You really should keep discussions relating to Australias gun Laws out of your arguments.

    You have a different culture and different laws there than we have here in Australia. Australians have never had a constitutional right to own firearms. I don't own a gun nor do i know anyone that does (other than law enforcement personel). The average Australian has never owned a firearm. You simply cannot compare the two Countries and it constantly amazes me when I see posters here that do.

    Most of us are reasonable people and understand that America has a great history of an armed populace with the majority of gun owners being responsible law abiding citizens.

    Carry on and thanks for listening.


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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Having armed teachers or having ultra strict gun laws will not make us 100% safe.

    This kid knew he would be killed by police or his own gun so an armed librarian would not be a deterrent. If legally buying a gun would have been out of his reach he could simply take one from his home or relative.

    Really the gun has nothing to do with this.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    we have seen a rather large amount of anti gun posts that are dishonest or evasive and when called on it, the poster using the evasive nature of his comments that clearly implied a position to argue that it was not really their position. You clearly said that it was ok for citizens to be limited to 7 shots. Your posts were devoid of factual support and your defense is dishonest.
    No, you haven't. Your poor reasoning skills and over emotional reaction make it seem that way to you. But an honest person, if you are one, would address what is said. Can you do that?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    12 Year old student brought a Ruger semi-auto 9 mm to school at 7:46 a.m., gun apparently belonged to his father, never entered the school building, encountered 46 yr. old math teacher, ex-Marine, present member of Nevada Air Guard, father of two, shot him dead, shot two other 12 yr olds, one in the shoulder, one in abdomen, both will survive, shooter then committed suicide with his gun. Police never fired a shot.

    Except for the deceased teacher, no names, pictures or possible motive released. Police are investigating father's acquisition of gun and how the 12 yr. old shooter got his hands on it.
    Does it not seem at least a little bit hinky that NO ONE is talking about who the school shooter was?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Another teacher found dead in Danvers, Mass, behind the school. A 14-year-old student is in custody.

    14-year-old arrested in murder of Massachusetts teacher, Danvers schools closed for investigation | Fox News

    No gun involved apparently for those of you who think guns act alone.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    So what's your point? Who are you to dictate how much of anything I own?
    The point was clear: you challenged me to support my previous statement with evidence and I have done just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    ....says the pot to the kettle
    You were the one who challenged me for evidence and I provided a raft of it for you. So your metaphor is dead on arrival and not at all applicable to my posts.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    well to most objective people who actually understand the facts, more guns in the hands of honest citizens is a good thing. More guns in the hands of scumbags is bad. Sadly, the solution of the anti gun left is to pass laws that mainly prevent or obstruct good people getting guns leaving us like what was seen in DC and Chicago where only the scumbags were armed in confrontations between good people and criminals. Proliferation is a loaded term used by the anti gun left to worry and accentuate the emotional response by low information voters.
    Perhaps the first thing you and the gun lobby need to then do is to classify all Americans into those two categories so we know which ones are deserving' of their Constitutional rights and which ones are not at all 'deserving' of their Constitutional rights.

    Then after you accomplish that task, you will need to offer an amendment to the Constitution to act upon that distinction.

    btw- PROLIFERATION is a perfectly good English language word with a very specific meaning which describes perfectly the significant of the numbers of guns in America over the last two decades.
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