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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They are human, but they are subjects. We are citizens. There is a difference. We have rights that they dont, and they hate that.
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    Do they still teach that drivel? More to the point, do people still believe it?
    I guess at least one does...
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. The job demands involvement. And more, much more involvement than most ever see. That is reality.

    And I have made a sound argument. You just don't need it. 7 rounds are more than enough. And it might make bad guys have to reload more often. it's a minor thing all the way around. Minor effect on the crime they want to stop and minor effect on you. hardly worth anyone whining about.
    you just make stuff up in order to pretend you can address points people who understand this issue make

    Its incredibly dishonest. Your posts demonstrate no ability to counter the fact that limits on what law abiding civilians have in terms of cartridge capacity are stupid and are contrary to the findings of police authorities who have determined that 15-17 rounds is the ideal capacity for defensive pistols for use against criminals

    You can never make a rational argument why people "can be trusted" with guns but not say more than 8 rounds

    or 5 rounds

    or 2 rounds

    your posts have demonstrated no expertise in this area so rather than try to argue the point you just make announcements based on stuff you have made up. You can not tell us at what point a limit is improper and you don't have the education in the subject to say why 7 rounds, 10 rounds etc are proper. (which makes you the same as people like Cuomo who just made it up)

    your posts are an example of why pro rights advocates have so little use for the anti gun positions-positions that are arbitrary unreasoned nonsense.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    And what do those links have to with
    they are what you asked for.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    You mean just now you are saying not a quote - >100 posts later
    I never said it WAS a quote 100 posts ago. The problem seems to be with you and not what I wrote.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Crazy...its been over 24 hours and still no word on the shooters identity. Considering the number of people that 'know', thats pretty fricken remarkable.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never said it WAS a quote 100 posts ago. The problem seems to be with you and not what I wrote.
    So how did this:

    or worse yet, being in a gun free zone where that guarantees only homicidal assholes are armed
    Become this? Your links didn't show that.

    Ah yes - the gun lobby dream of 300 million people armed to the teeth ready and willing to engage in battle at the drop of a hat anytime, anyplace and anywhere.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you just make stuff up in order to pretend you can address points people who understand this issue make

    Its incredibly dishonest. Your posts demonstrate no ability to counter the fact that limits on what law abiding civilians have in terms of cartridge capacity are stupid and are contrary to the findings of police authorities who have determined that 15-17 rounds is the ideal capacity for defensive pistols for use against criminals

    You can never make a rational argument why people "can be trusted" with guns but not say more than 8 rounds

    or 5 rounds

    or 2 rounds

    your posts have demonstrated no expertise in this area so rather than try to argue the point you just make announcements based on stuff you have made up. You can not tell us at what point a limit is improper and you don't have the education in the subject to say why 7 rounds, 10 rounds etc are proper. (which makes you the same as people like Cuomo who just made it up)

    your posts are an example of why pro rights advocates have so little use for the anti gun positions-positions that are arbitrary unreasoned nonsense.
    And yet, you continue to rant about me and not address the points. I've provided links for support for what I've said. You have yet to show that self fabled reasoning skills you boast.


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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    And yet, you continue to rant about me and not address the points. I've provided links for support for what I've said. You have yet to show that self fabled reasoning skills you boast.

    you haven't come close to supporting why honest people should be limited to less rounds than public servants or criminals. You just make crap up and repeat that BS over and over and over

    since you have never been in a gun fight or competed at a world class or national class (or even club class level) where do you get off saying reloading isn't that big a deal under stress?



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you haven't come close to supporting why honest people should be limited to less rounds than public servants or criminals. You just make crap up and repeat that BS over and over and over

    since you have never been in a gun fight or competed at a world class or national class (or even club class level) where do you get off saying reloading isn't that big a deal under stress?
    If you really believe that, you're missing a lot.

    Btw, gun fights are not something that really happens. This isn't Iraq. Some stop pretending this is the Wild West and you're John Wayne.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    So how did this:



    Become this? Your links didn't show that.
    easy - the person whom you quoted has been lobbying for more and more gun proliferation for years now and uses this so called excuse of "gun free zones" to push that idea.
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