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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    2 dead? Not that bad. Investigate, punish the offender, done and done.
    Didn't read beyond the headline, posted banal response, moved on.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Nothing about my guns endanger anyone. All under lock and key, I have a permit to carry and professional training from previous occupations. How many kids died in cars today?
    The car argument is weak and irrelevant. The numbers of lives lost is not the issue, lives lost is the issue and one life if not worth you preserving absolute freedom to do or own whatever firearm makes you feel like a big man.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I agree. It would hurt to have better role models as well. More Eastwood's Gran Torino, and less "Saw" or the like.
    Do you think that importing role models has any real impact? Like Big Brother programs or athletes and musicians who set more positive examples.

    BTW, loved Eastwood in GT
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    The car argument is weak and irrelevant. The numbers of lives lost is not the issue, lives lost is the issue and one life if not worth you preserving absolute freedom to do or own whatever firearm makes you feel like a big man.
    Another passive aggressive statement. So its not the numbers, but the fact that you think gun owners just need to feel like big men. What about all the women that own and carry? What are they trying to be?
    And hundreds of people can die in cars this week, but just a few from guns. But you want guns banned. Makes lots of sense. LOL

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Do you think that importing role models has any real impact? Like Big Brother programs or athletes and musicians who set more positive examples.

    BTW, loved Eastwood in GT
    Really, he was just an old washed up auto worker still trying to be a big man with a couple big guns.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    ...How many kids died in cars today?
    Makes me wonder.

    How many kids stole the family car today and then purposefully drove over several people at the schoolyard, shortly before turning the car upon themselves ?
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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Another passive aggressive statement. So its not the numbers, but the fact that you think gun owners just need to feel like big men. What about all the women that own and carry? What are they trying to be?
    And hundreds of people can die in cars this week, but just a few from guns. But you want guns banned. Makes lots of sense. LOL
    Not particularly passive in my opinion and I'm giving you, specifically, a hard time for the attitude you present here. Get over yourself.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    They are human, but they are subjects. We are citizens. There is a difference. We have rights that they dont, and they hate that.
    I'll step out of character for a moment to let you know something - if you ever went to Australia and said that, then the Aussies would probably take the time to politely educate you as to the extent of your ignorance...after helping you pick up your teeth from the floor.

    If you spent some time in these places (I've been to both Canada and Australia several times), you'd find out that they're every bit as free as we are in America - sure, they have a very few restrictions that we don't have...but by the same token, we have restrictions they don't have (and most of them are better-educated, healthier, and certainly more courteous than we are).

    Now, PLEASE continue, 'cuz you're the Real Red-Blooded American, not like those Aussies and Canucks and Kiwis who are struggling under the crushing yoke of socialist tyranny....
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoVsMatrix View Post
    Pro gun rights people (i use you and your rants as the "generalization" here, since you claim to speak on behalf of all gun rights people here anyway, to no or little objection by them) repeat the stupid stuff they hear from the NRA, and usually have very little to no knowledge about the constitution, the idea behind it by the founding fathers, or the history of the amendments.
    Since 5 years only, since 2008, at at no time before that, in 230+ years, was the second Amendment interpreted as the general right for civil citizens to bear arms. Period. While i can appreciate that pro-gun individuals pick up that very recent interpretation right now, it is more than ignorant to claim that this is what either was inclined by the writers of the constitution / BoR or what it was at all times anyways.

    It merely shows that the "interpretation" of the constitution, and the amendments, changes over the course of the time, and by that alone is NOT absolute or in any form an unchangeable given right.
    Hog wash. No one needed the SC to interpret the BoR until challenges to the 2A were brought about. And dont claim to know anything about my education. If the 2A were that broadly interpreted than our private owned guns would have been gone long ago.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Makes me wonder.

    How many kids stole the family car today and then purposefully drove over several people at the schoolyard, shortly before turning the car upon themselves ?
    well done.
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