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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post


    There was a thread on DP related to that tragedy:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/gun-co...post1061758937

    Part of todays story:
    The claim was no one, I'll still look tomorrow.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I agree. It would hurt to have better role models as well. More Eastwood's Gran Torino, and less "Saw" or the like.
    Eastwoods character commited at least two felonies in that movie. Pulling a .45 from in his truck on unarmed people and going outside with his Garand.
    How about parents being role models. Not actors, athletes, singers and other pop culture icons.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Frankly I dont give a **** about the Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, etc. I dont live in their country. I dont have their experiences, They dont have mine. Funny how that all works. Even when the Aussies were allowed fairly unfettered gun ownership they never had the same kind of problems we have with gangs and violence so to compare our experiences is in a word...stupid. Attempting to alter the rights (freedoms) of the vast majority of the owners of 300 million firearms because the very occasional bad actor is also...stupid. Ignoring the day to day violence and only celebrating the occasional school shooting in your 'cause' is not only stupid, its corrupt. Ignoring the reality for every 1 school shooting there are hundreds of beatings and stabbings that go ignored is equally stupid and corrupt.
    Yeah, those Aussies, Canucks, and Kiwis ain't as human as you, 'cuz you're American! How dare anyone even think that they could be compared to a REAL human being like you! They can't, because Americans - and specifically, a red-blooded gun-loving American like you - are the ONLY real humans! Yeah!
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Oh, the old. You cant shoot well argument. Man you are trotting all the excuses out tonight. Who are YOU to decide by what means I defend my home.
    Again, not me personally. Society.

    Guys, your emotional rants have been diverting, but my day starts at five am. I must leave for now.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    and Boo is not? Just because you are a tax paying citizen doesn't mean you get whatever you want, especially if what you want endangers others.
    Nothing about my guns endanger anyone. All under lock and key, I have a permit to carry and professional training from previous occupations. How many kids died in cars today?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Again, not me personally. Society.

    Guys, your emotional rants have been diverting, but my day starts at five am. I must leave for now.
    So far, most of society has no issue with my guns. Had they, you would have gotten more gun laws in April. Obama blew it.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Yeah, those Aussies, Canucks, and Kiwis ain't as human as you, 'cuz you're American! How dare anyone even think that they could be compared to a REAL human being like you! They can't, because Americans - and specifically, a red-blooded gun-loving American like you - are the ONLY real humans! Yeah!
    They are human, but they are subjects. We are citizens. There is a difference. We have rights that they dont, and they hate that.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, only sometimes. They can walk in on something at any time. You view is simply inaccurate.
    I can walk in on something at any time just as easily as any cop, I can come home to find someone in my home. I make be awakend by people in my home.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Still waiting for your gun law ideas.

    Pro gun rights people. We believe in personal responsibility, punishing the criminal, raising children to not be weak minded, we believe in the US Constitution, we hold all our rights dear and know when one falls they all will fall.
    Pro gun rights people (i use you and your rants as the "generalization" here, since you claim to speak on behalf of all gun rights people here anyway, to no or little objection by them) repeat the stupid stuff they hear from the NRA, and usually have very little to no knowledge about the constitution, the idea behind it by the founding fathers, or the history of the amendments.
    Since 5 years only, since 2008, at at no time before that, in 230+ years, was the second Amendment interpreted as the general right for civil citizens to bear arms. Period. While i can appreciate that pro-gun individuals pick up that very recent interpretation right now, it is more than ignorant to claim that this is what either was inclined by the writers of the constitution / BoR or what it was at all times anyways.

    It merely shows that the "interpretation" of the constitution, and the amendments, changes over the course of the time, and by that alone is NOT absolute or in any form an unchangeable given right.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I noticed your paratroopers insignia in your avatar. You former US military? If so, you swore an oath to defend the constitution of the united states. The 2A is part of that constitution.
    That is such a holier than thou defense. You think that if you wave the 2a everyone will cower and run. The meaning of the 2nd amendment is often debated and my guess is that if the "founding fathers" were to see the crazy **** going on today they would be up for some revisions or at least come clarification. This seems more about your emotional attachment to your weapon then anything else.
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