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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Dont lie like claim that magazine bans are not significant. You tend to lose credibility when you make such claims.

    tell us what laws would have stopped this shooting today?
    I do not see a significance. And you have failed to show any.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Who are YOU to decide it's ok to endanger the lives of innocent children so you get to keep your toys?
    Its ok because Iam an American taxpayer. With full rights under the constitution. That is who I am. What are you?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. We're on the web. There's no heat here. I just prefer more logic and less emotional rant.
    what logic have you used in your posts

    you pontificate that our rights can be infringed at any level you deem "Insignificant"

    I reject your standards as being based on absolutely no understanding of the facts



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Dont lie like claim that magazine bans are not significant. You tend to lose credibility when you make such claims.

    tell us what laws would have stopped this shooting today?
    Oh, your last question. I don't know of any, which us why I haven't proposed any.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I do not see a significance. And you have failed to show any.
    YOu won't accept any significance to a right you find insignificant. YOur views on what is significant has no significance to us because you are anti gun



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. We're on the web. There's no heat here. I just prefer more logic and less emotional rant.
    I have given nothing but logic. Its logical to me to own my firearms, just like its logical to own fire extinguishers, spare tires, flashlights, keep a stocked pantry, keep some bottled water, always keep the tanks filled on the car and truck. Straight up logic.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Really good points.

    You are right it is deeply embedded and it's tentacles reach in many different directions. For one thing we glorify violence and tie being able to kick ass to manhood which in reality, has nothing to do with being a man. I think arming our boys with a healthier understanding of what being a man really means would be a great start. Not sure how we would do that. We can say it's the parents job, but if the parent didn't learn it themselves chances are they aren't going to be teaching it.
    I agree. It would hurt to have better role models as well. More Eastwood's Gran Torino, and less "Saw" or the like.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, your last question. I don't know of any, which us why I haven't proposed any.
    I noticed your paratroopers insignia in your avatar. You former US military? If so, you swore an oath to defend the constitution of the united states. The 2A is part of that constitution.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Its ok because Iam an American taxpayer. With full rights under the constitution. That is who I am. What are you?
    and Boo is not? Just because you are a tax paying citizen doesn't mean you get whatever you want, especially if what you want endangers others. Your rights don't trump everyone elses.
    Last edited by opendebate; 10-22-13 at 01:04 AM.
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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that again is moronic. Police usually determine when and where they confront armed criminals. They have backup, vests and radio communications. The rest of us never choose when someone attacks us and where. we usually don't have backup.

    so your moronic claim that I only need 7 is just more illustration you have no clue about this issue

    why 7 why not 5 or 3? when NYS limited people to 10 rounds I made the same argument and people like you said the same thing about ten rounds

    tell us what expertise you have in civilian self defense issues that allows you to determine what is a proper number of rounds GIVEN THE GOVERNMENT HAS DETERMINED IT IS 15 to 17
    No, only sometimes. They can walk in on something at any time. You view is simply inaccurate.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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