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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What would you call significant? A total gun ban?
    I suspect he will call the NEXT infringement insignificant. so at one point a gun ban would be significant but in a few years he'd hope it would not be



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I suspect he will call the NEXT infringement insignificant. so at one point a gun ban would be significant but in a few years he'd hope it would not be
    That is the ploy they love to engage. Oh, just this one little law. Then another, then another...........

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Wow, you just know what everyones intentions are better then they do and the value of other people based purely on their posts don't you. You're awesome.
    I am.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I didn't say you attacked my post as irrational. I said your response was irrational.

    Phrasing your response as you have here is not as partisan and petty as your previous effort. So, I was responding to something MaggieD posted.

    my posts on guns are rational. I am a professional in this area. I asked what laws would have stopped a suicidal murderer when the fact he planned on dying was not a deterrence

    My father was a deck gunner on a Battleship during WWII Fortunately and sadly he was pulled out of combat exposure when his older brother was KIA in the spring of 45. However, he knew what every other naval officer in the Pacific knew-the only way to stop a Japanese Kamikaze pilot was to blow him and his plane up BEFORE it crashed into your ship. Men who had already accepted they were dead are not going to be deterred by the potential of death.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    I agree with you 100%. How do you suggest we address the mindset?

    Not sure. It's deeply embedded. But we need to start by calling it what is to start with, a tool. Not savior. Not ones manhood. Not the giver of safety, but a tool that can help in the right hands for the right reasons.

    We also need to keep educating that violence is not the answer in most cases. That reason should be the first and persistent choice for dealing with problem.

    Also, while I don't blame violent content in video games, we need kids out of the technology and interacting with real actual people. The graphics are better, and the lesson important. We're still human beings and this is largely important that we learn to deal with each other.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't think you have the credibility to determine what are minor infringements of a right you don't have much, if any, use for.
    I'm sure you don't, but I can think of a reason to care.

    The point us hunters can still hunt, and people can still for protection, and very little in real life has changed. That equals minor.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    That is the ploy they love to engage. Oh, just this one little law. Then another, then another...........
    arch gun hating asshole the late Pete Shields-a guy I took apart piece by piece at Yale's POlitical Union 33 or so years ago-admited that. PS became a gun hater when a black racist randomly shot his white son in the land of Gun hate (Kalifornia) and he felt a need to DO SOMETHING (A black future National Review Editor asked him why he didnt' want to incarcerate all black males under the age of 30-Shields said that would be constitutional and the student noted that since Shields wanted to rape the constitution, he might as well do something that was 40X more likely to deter crime than gun bans).

    Shields noted that first licenses and registration should be imposed. Then only licensed security guards etc be allowed to own handguns. Its truth, you can google this and find it is so



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't think you have the credibility to determine what are minor infringements of a right you don't have much, if any, use for.
    So are you equally up in arms about the automatic weapons ban?
    Many Trump supporters have lots of problems, and those deplorables are bringing those problems to us. They’re racists. They’re misogynists. They’re islamophobic. They're xenophobes and homophobes. And some, I assume, are good people.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    When leaders of our nation speak words like ban and confiscation. We better listen. Its more than just talk.
    If that is true, as they have spoken for decades upon decades, where are the bans and confiscations?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    Thanks to people like you, I purchased several and became quite efficient with them. They all hold more than 10 rounds.
    And you won't be proficient with seven? Really?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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