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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    your silly lies get tiring. I have consistently said that since I have NO IDEA what at the next criminal attack may bring I don't want to be limited to 7 rounds.
    Just show one real event where more was needed. Just one.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just show one real event where more was needed. Just one.
    I did. the Fayetville shooting-

    you lose



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I did. the Fayetville shooting-

    you lose
    I believe I answered that.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I believe I answered that.
    you have yet to answer any of the relevant points. For you to have any chance of making sense you would have to prove that there is no possibility that a homeowner or citizens on the street would ever face a situation where the citizen would need more than 7 rounds. Since you cannot do that, you lose. Your argument is worthless and defies common sense. and since you have completely failed to establish there is any countervailing down side to people having more rounds, your massive numbers of posts on this issue is again-mental masturbation.

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    the cops almost never say how many rounds were expended by the lawful shooter.

    Gun Battle Ensues As Man Fights Off Home Invaders, Kills 1 CBS Sacramento

    Armed homeowner shoots burglar in self defense - National self-defense | Examiner.com

    s I’ve noted before, criminals often work in groups, using superior numbers to overwhelm their victims. When that happens, even the strongest unarmed victims can be overpowered by the numerically superior criminals.

    When a crime victim is armed for self defense, things can be quite different. Every day, firearms allow a single crime victim to successfully defend themselves against multiple attackers. Here, this homeowner used his handgun to fend off 2 attackers. Similarly, this man used his handgun to defend himself against 3 violent men who broke into his apartment. This business owner used his shotgun to stop 4 armed robbers who where pistol whipping an employee and threatening the lives of everyone present. This mother used her handgun to defend herself and her young children from a pair of home invading prison escapees. This woman used her gun to fend off 4 home invaders. This man used his gun to save himself and his wife from 4 armed robbers



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you have yet to answer any of the relevant points. For you to have any chance of making sense you would have to prove that there is no possibility that a homeowner or citizens on the street would ever face a situation where the citizen would need more than 7 rounds. Since you cannot do that, you lose. Your argument is worthless and defies common sense. and since you have completely failed to establish there is any countervailing down side to people having more rounds, your massive numbers of posts on this issue is again-mental masturbation.

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    the cops almost never say how many rounds were expended by the lawful shooter.

    Gun Battle Ensues As Man Fights Off Home Invaders, Kills 1 CBS Sacramento


    Armed homeowner shoots burglar in self defense - National self-defense | Examiner.com

    s I’ve noted before, criminals often work in groups, using superior numbers to overwhelm their victims. When that happens, even the strongest unarmed victims can be overpowered by the numerically superior criminals.

    When a crime victim is armed for self defense, things can be quite different. Every day, firearms allow a single crime victim to successfully defend themselves against multiple attackers. Here, this homeowner used his handgun to fend off 2 attackers. Similarly, this man used his handgun to defend himself against 3 violent men who broke into his apartment. This business owner used his shotgun to stop 4 armed robbers who where pistol whipping an employee and threatening the lives of everyone present. This mother used her handgun to defend herself and her young children from a pair of home invading prison escapees. This woman used her gun to fend off 4 home invaders. This man used his gun to save himself and his wife from 4 armed robbers
    None say they used or needed more than seven rounds. Nothing you show here do I deny. One use a shot gun. How many rounds in a shot gun?

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    None say they used or needed more than seven rounds. Nothing you show here do I deny. One use a shot gun. How many rounds in a shot gun?
    someone who actually is interested in learning or like me-is well educated in this subject-understands that if there are four people shooting at you and you kill one and wound two-or in the other case, kill two, the round count is going to be rather high. Since you admittedly are completely ignorant of such scenarios, it is understandable you don't get that point.



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    someone who actually is interested in learning or like me-is well educated in this subject-understands that if there are four people shooting at you and you kill one and wound two-or in the other case, kill two, the round count is going to be rather high. Since you admittedly are completely ignorant of such scenarios, it is understandable you don't get that point.
    Perhaps. But it likely happened quickly, there was neither many rounds spent nor needed.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Perhaps. But it likely happened quickly, there was neither many rounds spent nor needed.
    you are getting deeper and deeper. you have to prove that when someone is confronted with FOUR ARMED CRIMINALS trying to KILL YOU-a lone citizen, you will never need more than 7 rounds to neutralize all four

    how many people have you ever shot Boo up close and personal with a handgun? did you know that the one shot stopping rate of most handguns with a SOLID CHEST HIT is less than 65% That is a center of mass hit.

    Your posts have demonstrated a frightening lack of mathematical reasoning.

    If hit ratios with handguns are less than 50% and even with solid hits, the stopping ratio is less than 65% and there are FOUR ARMED ATTACKERS TRYING TO KILL YOU what does our FRIEND MATHEMATICS teach us

    4 attackers with 50% hit ratios means EIGHT ROUNDS to effectively put ONE BULLET ON EACH ATTACKER

    now if stopping ratios are at best 2/3s that means what

    MORE THAN 8 rounds!! more like three or so more

    we are up to 11 rounds

    Damn Boo, your silly argument fails math



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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    note the number of shots normally required on target to incapacitate it

    often more than 2

    4 bad guys 2 shots >7

    An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power | Buckeye Firearms Association



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