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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    No not at all. I know of two police officers, one I went to highschool with that are dead because they ran out of ammo here in Palm Bay because they tried to stop a man with a Mini 14.
    One was killed while reloading his revolver by having half a mag emptied into him.
    Also a citizen engaged with a 1911 failed to stop him after exchanging with his 7 round weapon.
    William Cruse is still on death row for that rampage at a shopping center.
    How many many men do you stop? Again, a different job.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Point is police work while dangerous by design is not much more dangerous than what a citizen may encounter. And you wish for us to be unarmed.
    I asked you once and you dodged, whats up with the paratrooper avatar. You ex military? You took an oath to up hold and defend the constitution. The 2A is part of the constitution.
    Even as someone that is still certified to be a police officer in this state, I see that the public being armed as well as I is still a good thing.
    No, much more dangerous. Few of us ever face anything. We don't stop people. We don't patrol. We don't go out and engage dangers.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You could very well be defending others, your family. Drugged out offenders a lot of times don't run away, and a lot of these guys are quite well armed and ready for a fight.

    Phoenix Police Say a Spike in Home Invasions Is Drug Related - Home Invasion News | Home Invasion News
    If if I said home invasions didn't happen this would be a good article. but it gives no insight as to how many rounds would have been needed to stop it. Again, no one has argued you can't defend yourself, except TD who says he can't with 7 rounds.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, much more dangerous. Few of us ever face anything. We don't stop people. We don't patrol. We don't go out and engage dangers.
    Just keep going round and round. You are not making an arguement just repeating your wrong headed idea.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    How many many men do you stop? Again, a different job.
    plenty of armed citizens have stopped crimes in progress.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    plenty of armed citizens have stopped crimes in progress.
    Don't pull a gun on a veteran.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    This country was BUILT on bullets, to ad lib a line from a movie.

    Funny thing how most mass shootings occur in gun free zones. It's quite obvious that those areas are intentionally sought out by mass shooters because they KNOW people will be unarmed and unable to defend themselves against the rampage.
    Canada is handgun free zone and that's why we statistically have a lot more shootings than does any region in the US. Oh, wait.......

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    ...which confirms the postulate.... 25-50 deaths per year from public shootings are acceptable collateral casualties of unfettered gun rights.
    Thats just comical beyond words. You offer this completely moronic concept that "if there were a magical law, would you support it" and when people recognize your completely moronic pose for what it is, you retort "hah...you want to kill 25-50 poor babies".

    Lets look at the laws that WERE proposed following that incident and other shootings. Increased background check laws. Ummm...already in place. Did nothing. Gun registration. Check...Connecticut requires gun registration...did nothing. Magazine capacity bans. OK...as proven in VA Tech, Aurora, and even Sandy Hook...mag cap bans do absolutely nothing. Dood had 10 minutes unfettered. He loaded and reloaded numerous times and still had full magazines. Cho in VA Tech did the same. The expanded mag in Aurora jammed and Holmes proceeded to shoot scores of people using a handgun and shotgun which he had to load and reload. Mag cap bans...useless. A ban on 'assault rifles'. Again...VA Tech proves its worthless. Arizona, Colorado, even Sandy Hook where the shooter had handguns and a shotgun...AR bans are worthless. The commissioner of the NYPD stated clearly that only 3 of 1300 rounds fired in all of New York could be attributed to a rifle of ANY kind. The vast majority of school shooters do not use ARs. Again...a worthless proposed law.

    Face it...all you offer is fairy tales and bad laws, but then...you dont care if it is realistic...all you care about is finding a way to pass a law...any law...even a 'magic' law.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    I think you are making alot of assumptions.
    Any time someone voices an opinion, there are assumptions. Duh. It's not like there is a study being done that polls parents across a 3.1 million square mile country to see if they feel their kids will be stressed by paramilitary in every school. I have six kids and know a lot of other parents. I do not think it's unreasonable to suspect a fairly substantial amount of parents will not be cool with National Guardsmen in their schools armed with M4 rifles and M11 sidearms.

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    Re: School shooting this morning . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Snappo View Post
    Any time someone voices an opinion, there are assumptions. Duh. It's not like there is a study being done that polls parents across a 3.1 million square mile country to see if they feel their kids will be stressed by paramilitary in every school. I have six kids and know a lot of other parents. I do not think it's unreasonable to suspect a fairly substantial amount of parents will not be cool with National Guardsmen in their schools armed with M4 rifles and M11 sidearms.
    Then leave your little ones as fish in a barrell for the next crazy person. I wonder how stressed the Newtown kids looking down the barrell of a gun?

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