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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    if taxes don't pay the heating bill what does?
    ... You obviously missed the point of my statement. 1-2 days off will mean absolutely nothing in terms of taxes. School years have been getting progressively shorter while at the same time taxes to pay for them have been on the increase. Again, a school being shut down for 1-2 days means NOTHING in terms of the taxes which are collected in order to fund them.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    By closing down the schools over religious events you are in fact forcing others to register it as being significant. Not only that, you're stopping others from performing their labor due to the religious beliefs of others.
    Religious holidays are significant. There is no church and state issue, but the schools trying to work with their customers. They have alot of flexability in being able to move the schedule around and this is an easy thing to do that accommodates a growing segment of those who attend. I can't see where it would be a big deal. The school is not supporting the holiday, not sponsoring or even commenting on the religion itself.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Try delivering that message to the (I'm sure very large) majority of parents with respect to Christmas.
    That would be interesting.

    We still have a contingent of CHristians that consider saying "Happy Holidays" somehow is some kind of a threat against Christianity.

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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Religious holidays are significant
    To the religious.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    This is the problem with mixing religion and state. If you want your kids celebrating your religious holidays, they can go to religious charter schools - or better yet - don't bring them to school that day. You don't have a right to make everyone else observe your religious events.
    The two people advocating this aren't even Muslim so how are they "making everyone else observe [their] religious events?

    Also, getting the day off for a religious holiday is not the same thing as observing a religious holiday. In college, we got some Jewish holidays off and, as a non-Jew, I didn't observe anything. I enjoyed my day off.

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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... You obviously missed the point of my statement. 1-2 days off will mean absolutely nothing in terms of taxes. School years have been getting progressively shorter while at the same time taxes to pay for them have been on the increase. Again, a school being shut down for 1-2 days means NOTHING in terms of the taxes which are collected in order to fund them.
    so what does it cost you? what skin do you have in the game? why do you even give a dam?
    just the whinings of a brat not wanting someone to have something you don't believe in

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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    To the religious.
    No. By that argument, then religions are only significant to the religious. Just because you or I do not follow a particular religion does not mean that what they do is not significant. Easter for example is a significant holiday celebrating the key event that a large portion of the world believes happens, even if you believe as I do that it is really just a hilarious mashup of rabbits, chickens and a zombie. Just because it is not my holiday does not make it an insignificant one.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I have never seen a public school close on Jewish holidays.
    In New York, they close on Rosh Hashanah.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why are Muslims so special as to close the whole school and put every other student behind for that day?
    They are not: it is simply sensible and practical to close schools on Muslim holidays in the areas where Muslims are a significant part of the population. In Dearborn, MI schools are closed on Eid-al-Fitr, and it doesn't seem to bother anyone.

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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Try delivering that message to the (I'm sure very large) majority of parents with respect to Christmas.
    Actually, most school districts have their asses covered with that one, they don't have a Christmas holiday off. In fact, they have a winter break and Christmas just happens to fall there, but so does New Years Eve so it isn't a Christmas holiday, it's a Winter Break. I notice that Easter used to be within the Spring Break but that doesn't seem to be always true anymore, and no other day seems to be off if Easter doesn't fall within the Spring Break.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Spare me your fallacious arguments. My argument is that people can have their holidays - publicly funded schools shouldn't be closed in order to observe those holidays. Which is by far the most Libertarian argument on this thread.
    True enough.

    From a practical POV, having usual days off falling on major religious holidays (Jewish, Christian, Muslim, Scientology)will be less disruptive to a school. For awhile, we had a modified year round schedule (start a little early, have well spaced weeklong breaks) seemed to accommodate multiple religious holidays - without intending to.

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