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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    The break isn't for Christmas exactly though. Not now anyway. We can justify the Christmas break from the very fact that there are going to be a number of students and staff that are simply not going to come to school on Christmas. But if you only have one or two students or staff out of a 300 student school not coming in because of some other holiday, then it would be pointless to close school to accommodate such a small percentage of those at the school. It would be a waste of time. It doesn't matter what the religion was the holiday was important to.

    If I plan to keep my kids home from school on "Talk Like a Pirate Day", should the school shutdown on that day just because I personally feel that it is important to my religious beliefs? But what if half the school was going to do this and told the school as such beforehand? Then should the school be shutdown? Having a small percentage of students not in class would only mean ensuring those few students are filled in. But having half the class or more absent means that there is a very good chance that the teacher will have to reteach the entire day anyway just to ensure the class doesn't fall behind.
    Publish a syllabus, announce the schedule for any and all tests, homework assignments, and term papers at the beginning of the academic year, hold students responsible for assimilating content whether they're in school or not, and then you won't need to worry about cancelling classes because of mass absenteeism.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Christmas is a holiday though that is celebrated by so many in the US though that it is only practical to not have school on at least that day. In general though, since Christmas falls at a really good time of other holidays and it seems to be a good time for students to get a break, plenty of religions are covered by the "Christmas" break (which is generally becoming "winter break" in most places). And the practicality of having a school opening with so many people out and the likelihood of a certain portion/percentage of the students/staff/both being out is what should be the most important factor with whether a school is open or not for any religious holidays or other things. I'm pretty sure this is a large part of the reasoning for snow days. You could have students that live so close to the school that they might be playing right there at the school anyway during the snow day, but a good portion of the school and staff might not be able to make it in due to where they live.
    good point about the snow day. When I was in HS I lived a few blocks from the school. And during one particularly bad storm, the school board decided not to cancel classes. Due to the fact hardly any teachers, support staff, or students showed up, it was basically a bunch of kids sitting in the auditorium with the principle, treating it as a giant study hall with very relaxed rules

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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Better yet. Have the liberals quit preventing school vouchers. Kid might stand a chance at a decent education and parents could choose what type school to send their kids to.
    Better yet. Tell parents that their child's success both in school and in life is heavily influenced by parental participation. Kid might stand a chance at a decent education, parents would claim the power to have a greater say in how public schools are run, and they could also reinforce lessons especially important to them without re-appropriating tax dollars. That way everybody wins, not just those who can afford private school educations (with or without the re-appropriation of tax dollars).
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Publish a syllabus, announce the schedule for any and all tests, homework assignments, and term papers at the beginning of the academic year, hold students responsible for assimilating content whether they're in school or not, and then you won't need to worry about cancelling classes because of mass absenteeism.
    Yeah, like all pubic school kids are old enough to handle that, and gee parents really need to somehow manage that for their kids. ... NOT happening.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Better yet. Tell parents that their child's success both in school and in life is heavily influenced by parental participation. Kid might stand a chance at a decent education, parents would claim the power to have a greater say in how public schools are run, and they could also reinforce lessons especially important to them without re-appropriating tax dollars. That way everybody wins, not just those who can afford private school educations (with or without the re-appropriation of tax dollars).
    Hard to do for any but the well off. Everyone else is working, maybe more than one job, driving kids to safe exercise whatevers since neighborhoods aren't safe anymore, trying to get dinners, and baths, and homework, and spouses,... yeah, like any but the well off who can offshift a lot of that work to others can manage that.
    I guess if you want to re-instate welfare for mother's in poverty, maybe then.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Better yet. Tell parents that their child's success both in school and in life is heavily influenced by parental participation. Kid might stand a chance at a decent education, parents would claim the power to have a greater say in how public schools are run, and they could also reinforce lessons especially important to them without re-appropriating tax dollars. That way everybody wins, not just those who can afford private school educations (with or without the re-appropriation of tax dollars).
    Parents can "claim the power" to have a say now. Big brother usually wins out.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Yeah, like all pubic school kids are old enough to handle that, and gee parents really need to somehow manage that for their kids. ... NOT happening.
    I think once you get past a certain age, kids are pretty good at meeting the expectations adults hold them to. What that certain age is is, I suppose, a whole other discussion.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I think once you get past a certain age, kids are pretty good at meeting the expectations adults hold them to. What that certain age is is, I suppose, a whole other discussion.
    I'm thinking at least Pre, K, & the first five grades would be beyond a reasonable challenge for all but the most exceptional.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Hard to do for any but the well off. Everyone else is working, maybe more than one job, driving kids to safe exercise whatevers since neighborhoods aren't safe anymore, trying to get dinners, and baths, and homework, and spouses,... yeah, like any but the well off who can offshift a lot of that work to others can manage that.
    I guess if you want to re-instate welfare for mother's in poverty, maybe then.
    Or you could make a lot of sacrifices. It's what I do, as the father of a single-income household. We have one car, don't go out very much, and keep the ordering out to a minimum. We read to our kids, and our eldest gets his nose lovingly strapped to the grindstone when there's homework to be done.

    If you can't figure out how participate in your child's education, you shouldn't have children -- teaching them is parental job #3, with #1 being safety and #2 being sustenance.
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    Re: New York schools may close for Muslim holidays

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I'm thinking at least Pre, K, & the first five grades would be beyond a reasonable challenge for all but the most exceptional.
    Yeah, probably. I was gonna say seventh grade, personally.
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