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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Do you really think India would risk losing our business, let alone a nuclear war, with the United States over their obvious infringements on our vessels right to defense?

    Your policy of just ignoring the infringement and forcing our sailors to travel unarmed is sending sheep to a slaughter. It is a policy of appeasement and we know how that works don't we?
    If you weren't grossly ignorant, you would be aware that territorial waters are within the sovereign borders of the nation. Sending armed foreigners into those waters without the permission of the local government is an act of war. Committing acts of war against a nuclear power is insane. You really need to learn about foreign policy beyond your childish power fantasies.

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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    You think it's okay for a busniess, the security company, to do business without filing any of the necessary docs to do that business. No one said they couldn't be armed, but they had to get docs filed. I would imagine we have similar rules about folks from foreign countries coming to our waters similarly armed.
    Why should they fill out documentation if they are in international waters and asked to go into port by the Indian Coast guard? If that is in fact what happened...the Indian Coast Guard can go to hell. Or do their part in taking out pirates in the ocean that bears their name.
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    If you weren't grossly ignorant, you would be aware that territorial waters are within the sovereign borders of the nation. Sending armed foreigners into those waters without the permission of the local government is an act of war. Committing acts of war against a nuclear power is insane. You really need to learn about foreign policy beyond your childish power fantasies.
    Again. You think India would go to NUCLEAR WAR with the single most powerful nation...and their ally...over 35 armed crewmen? And I am childish? I think the only person here clueless on foreign policy isn't me.
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Why should they fill out documentation if they are in international waters and asked to go into port by the Indian Coast guard? If that is in fact what happened...the Indian Coast Guard can go to hell. Or do their part in taking out pirates in the ocean that bears their name.
    Where did you read they were in International waters? I read Indian waters, so then yeah, a responsible company gets the paperwork accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Where did you read they were in International waters? I read Indian waters, so then yeah, a responsible company gets the paperwork accomplished.
    The OP and the OP source. It was stated that they were in international waters...and escorted into port by the Indian Coast guard.
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The OP and the OP source. It was stated that they were in international waters...and escorted into port by the Indian Coast guard.
    Then you better read again,
    India arrests crew of US ship carrying weapons
    Associated Press
    By NIRMALA GEORGE October 18, 2013 8:50 AM

    NEW DELHI (AP) — Police in a southern Indian port city on Friday arrested the crew of a U.S.-owned ship on charges of illegally transporting weapons and ammunition in Indian waters.
    And I don't see anywhere that it's contradicted.
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Again. You think India would go to NUCLEAR WAR with the single most powerful nation...and their ally...over 35 armed crewmen? And I am childish? I think the only person here clueless on foreign policy isn't me.
    You don't get how it works. India will simply exercise its sovereign rights and arrest any armed individuals in their territorial waters without permission. Your foolish plan involving aircraft carriers would start the war.

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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Then you better read again,

    And I don't see anywhere that it's contradicted.
    Just search William H Watson. He claimed they weren't in Indian waters and were asked to follow them into port. I saw that in the New York Times. Like I said. If they were not in Indian waters and were asked to follow them into port...then it is not their fault they didn't have documentation and it is likely just an attempt to squeeze money out of the people. As a rule I don't trust third world nations or their "police forces."
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You don't get how it works. India will simply exercise its sovereign rights and arrest any armed individuals in their territorial waters without permission. Your foolish plan involving aircraft carriers would start the war.
    Even if those people are in foreign and not territorial waters as it seems might have happened right?
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    Re: India Arrests Crew of US Ship Carrying Weapons.....

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Just search William H Watson. He claimed they weren't in Indian waters and were asked to follow them into port. I saw that in the New York Times. Like I said. If they were not in Indian waters and were asked to follow them into port...then it is not their fault they didn't have documentation and it is likely just an attempt to squeeze money out of the people. As a rule I don't trust third world nations or their "police forces."
    IF, then I agree. However I don't concede IF at this time.
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