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The Republican civil war is just getting started

Thrilla said:
a civil war in the GOP you say?... well good....it's a healthy thing.... not a damn thing wrong with it whatsoever.
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I tend to agree. The nuttier fringe and the anti-science evangelical types need to be purged if their party is going to remain relevant. If the GOP made a pivot on the social issues and focused on the fiscal issues they'd be sweeping up a lot of current Democrat voters.
 
apdst said:
Yeah, the economy is going through a golden age under Obama.

Healthy, growing economies mean fewer people getting government handouts...perfect scenario for the Libbos.
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So the Teas' were helping the liberals? The American economy depends on growth and everything the T's have done has been to weaken growth and raise uncertainty.
There is no reason to cut spending when it slows growth and hiring. But T's would rather be giving out unemployment than collecting taxes. Like I said they want growth slowed. They want Govt. discredited and mistrusted too, especially the POTUS who they unnaturally fear to the point of demonization. They say it is what he does but that does not explain the anger. Obama has not really done all that much to warrant the levels I have witnessed. There must be something else, I just can't pinpoint what it is.
 
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StringBean said:
So, by the logic of some, once Hillary is elected in 2016 the Tea Partiers will all pack up their tents and return home since she isn't African-American?

Hmm, we'll see about that.
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Don't confuse the Tea Party with OWS...
 
Thrilla said:
a civil war in the GOP you say?... well good....it's a healthy thing.... not a damn thing wrong with it whatsoever.
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IF there would be a civil war it would be against RINO's, Progressive repubicans, socialist, communists and "Marxists."

Considering 90% if your ilk want to ban the Second Amendment, I don't really see how you would win such a war...

Hell, the US military you would depend on IMO, would have a 75% defection rate to the patriot party....

You ever hear of the Red Army?1917 revolution?

That worked right?
 
Mr.Nick said:
IF there would be a civil war it would be against RINO's, Progressive repubicans, socialist, communists and "Marxists."

Considering 90% if your ilk want to ban the Second Amendment, I don't really see how you would win such a war...

Hell, the US military you would depend on IMO, would have a 75% defection rate to the patriot party....

You ever hear of the Red Army?1917 revolution?

That worked right?
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I'm certain you are confused ...

we aren't talking bout a real civil war... just a civil war inside the GOP ( think Tea Party V Establishment GOP)

also ,I'm not a liberal/progressive, i don't want to ban guns ..I own dozens of them
 
guns will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no guns..
Thrilla said:
I'm certain you are confused ...

we aren't talking bout a real civil war... just a civil war inside the GOP ( think Tea Party V Establishment GOP)

also ,I'm not a liberal/progressive, i don't want to ban guns ..I own dozens of them
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Thrilla said:
I'm certain you are confused ...

we aren't talking bout a real civil war... just a civil war inside the GOP ( think Tea Party V Establishment GOP)

also ,I'm not a liberal/progressive, i don't want to ban guns ..I own dozens of them
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There is no civil war in the GOP...

You should listen to what the tea party has to say. It is true there are, progressive republicans but for the most part these people are just regular middle class people who have a life to loose/business to loose under Obamas policies, and now that all the facts are coming out ever republican have asserted that health premiums would come up, that was proven true (for the 75% that could even log onto the exchange site) came true... \

I went from NO health Care to a 2800 deductible for myself at the age of 33..
 
Thrilla said:
we aren't talking bout a real civil war... just a civil war inside the GOP ( think Tea Party V Establishment GOP)
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He IS talkingt about a REAL civil war between two different entities not mentioned in this thread..
also ,I'm not a liberal/progressive, i don't want to ban guns ..I own dozens of them
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This is why I want you on my team..
How would you feel about B. Sandoval as the GOP VP with Christie, since he is a man over S. Martinez of NM ?
 
Michael66 said:
It may just be a situation in which the tea baggers have to win in order to bring down your country to the level at which the people will start to fight for their rights and a fair share. If that's the case then there is a great deal of suffering to be endured by the ordinary American before your country wises up.

In reality, I think the tea bagger agenda will be completely defused when Obama's term is over and the racist element no longer exists. The baggers will no longer have the motivation that keeps them hating.
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Well, by then it may be Hillary and her uterus - so the hate can continue.
 
Hatuey said:
The problem is the Tea Party movement was never about that. It was a direct reaction to Obama's election. They had no problem with growing debt for 30 years. They suddenly have a problem with it when Obama gets elected.
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that's not true and you know it. They might not have been called TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY but there have been people sick of the malignant spread of federal government for years.
 
iguanaman said:
So the Teas' were helping the liberals?
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And the DEMs should help the most helpless TEA, as McCaskill did with Akin, slamming his two opponents in the primary..
The American economy depends on growth and everything the T's have done has been to weaken growth and raise uncertainty.
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As per the 24/7/365 obstruction since election 2008 with Cantour leading the Coup..
There is no reason to cut spending when it slows growth and hiring.
But T's would rather be giving out unemployment than collecting taxes.
Like I said they want growth slowed.
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Which the GOP has clearly done for 60 months..
especially the POTUS who they unnaturally fear to the point of demonization. They say it is what he does but that does not explain the anger. Obama has not really done all that much to warrant the levels I have witnessed. There must be something else, I just can't pinpoint what it is.
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One of the TEAs was 10 feet from Obama, their words, and couldn't stand being that close to him .
 
StringBean said:
So, by the logic of some, once Hillary is elected in 2016 the Tea Partiers will all pack up their tents and return home since she isn't African-American?

Hmm, we'll see about that.
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The t's will keep going as long as the Koch bros. keep giving them money. It's that simple.
 
TurtleDude said:
that's not true and you know it. They might not have been called TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY
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In your words, what do you call the budget wonk P. Ryan when HE has been on the govt. TEAt all his life..
but there have been people sick of the malignant spread of federal government for years.
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As we've seen with all SIX GOP POTUSs back to IKE ad nauseum, such as your domestic Nixon..
Dad was furious when Ford put the first tax on Military pensions and showed him by getting in trouble with the IRS..
 
NIMBY said:
In your words, what do you call the budget wonk P. Ryan when HE has been on the govt. TEAt all his life..

As we've seen with all SIX GOP POTUSs back to IKE ad nauseum, such as your domestic Nixon..
Dad was furious when Ford put the first tax on Military pensions and showed him by getting in trouble with the IRS..
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The GOP isn't perfect but nothing instigated the spread of big government more than the NEW DEAL and the judges FDR put on the court.
 
Were you against the Tree Army of the CCC, which built so many roads that were needed and led to the Interstate expansion..
They were one of the first World-War II-ready groups..
TurtleDude said:
The GOP isn't perfect but nothing instigated the spread of big government more than
the NEW DEAL and the judges FDR put on the court.
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Teddy Roosevelt and A. Lincoln would have done as much, and we have ample evidence .
 
NIMBY said:
Were you against the Tree Army of the CCC, which built so many roads that were needed and led to the Interstate expansion..
They were one of the first World-War II-ready groups..

Teddy Roosevelt and A. Lincoln would have done as much, and we have ample evidence .
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I doubt either would have threatened to pack the court. that was the really blow to the constitution because that caused a court that had struck down lots of the idiocy of FDR to start rolling over and kissing his statist ass after that
 
iguanaman said:
So the Teas' were helping the liberals? The American economy depends on growth and everything the T's have done has been to weaken growth and raise uncertainty.
There is no reason to cut spending when it slows growth and hiring. But T's would rather be giving out unemployment than collecting taxes. Like I said they want growth slowed. They want Govt. discredited and mistrusted too, especially the POTUS who they unnaturally fear to the point of demonization. They say it is what he does but that does not explain the anger. Obama has not really done all that much to warrant the levels I have witnessed. There must be something else, I just can't pinpoint what it is.
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Oh, and things were booming under the Libbos and would boom again, if only eveeryone would get out of Obama's way? Surely you jest!
 
Deuce said:
The GOP has hitched their entire party to the idea that Obamacare is going to destroy our civilization. When if fails to do so, you think that will be good for the Republicans? :lamo
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How's it goning to go for the Dems when Obamacare flops?
 
Samhain said:
So they came up with the name Taxed Enough Already as a cover story for Get Blacky?
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If that story about the name has any truth to it, it certainly shows just how amazingly stupid these tea party zealots are.

U.S. tax burden at lowest level since '58 - USATODAY.com

Americans are paying the smallest share of their income for taxes since 1958, a reflection of tax cuts and a weak economy, a USA TODAY analysis finds.


By Karen Bleier, AFP/Getty Images

The total tax burden — for all federal, state and local taxes — dropped to 23.6% of income in the first quarter, according to Bureau of Economic Analysis data.
By contrast, individuals spent roughly 27% of income on taxes in the 1970s, 1980s and the 1990s — a rate that would mean $500 billion of extra taxes annually today, one-third of the estimated $1.5 trillion federal deficit this year.
The analysis comes as President Obama and Congress debate whether to cut federal spending, raise taxes or both.
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Lowest tax rates in several decades and that sparked a sudden movement against high taxes coincidently at the same time we got a Black Prez? Got it. :shock::doh:roll:
 
TurtleDude said:
I doubt either would have threatened to pack the court. that was the really blow to the constitution because that caused a court that had struck down lots of the idiocy of FDR to start rolling over and kissing his statist ass after that
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In all the times you have made this allegation about a fact of history, why are you unable to actually present any verifiable evidence that it was this event which caused the court to make the decisions it did? The opposite is true however. You have been presented evidence from the Chief Justice himself who stated that the court expansion idea had nothing to do with his decisions or those of the Court.

You present nothing but rantings based on your hate for FDR combined with conspiratorial speculations. I and others have presented evidence from the historical record that you are simply wrong.
 
apdst said:
If you think Lincoln was a Libbo, you need to read a book.
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Just because you don't know the difference between liberal and conservative is not my fault you equate certain people the wrong way.

George Washington was incredibly liberal and left leaning as well, and I'd say the most left leaning President in history.
 
Nynaeve Meara said:
Just because you don't know the difference between liberal and conservative is not my fault you equate certain people the wrong way.

George Washington was incredibly liberal and left leaning as well, and I'd say the most left leaning President in history.
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Obviously you don't know the difference between a Leftist and a Classic Liberal. Google is your friend!
 
apdst said:
Obviously you don't know the difference between a Leftist and a Classic Liberal. Google is your friend!
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Don't make up catch phrases, liberal is liberal. The US is founded on liberal policies.
 
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