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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's just plain stupid. the rich have a far higher total tax burden in terms of actual dollars
    What's stupid is your inability to cite the actual numbers to back that up, even though we've ed at you forever and asked you like 10 times

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Your CANADIAN!!!??

    LOL!!

    Yes, you are right. Thanks for telling me. Now I have TWO reasons to ignore your blather...ultra-left nonsense...coming from a Canadian.
    True enough, ultra left nonsense for many Americans but right in the middle for the rest of the world. Remember pal, it's your country that is falling apart and failing, not Canada. Maybe there's a good reason why? Ya think? Or are the left and the right on this forum making up all the problems we are hearing about?

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    A tax is a tax is a tax is a tax.

    Pretending that ones FICA taxes are NOT a tax is the lie. But don't believe me - here is a verifiable source for the evidence

    Federal Insurance Contributions Act tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    the far right tries to create a dishonest and fraudulent stage on which to discuss the issue of taxation when they attempt to exclude FICA taxes from the discussion. As we all know, the wealthy pay a very tiny portion of their income in FICA tax while average workers pay proportionately hundreds of times more in percentage of income than many millionaires do.
    I wonder if turtledude can tell us what pct. of the FICA tax is refunded to the individual the subsequent filing year after it's deducted from one's earnings by the government in a given tax year, if say, an individual earned $70,000 that year in wages.

    Don't help. I want to see if he can answer it himself. However, if he's an earning, taxpaying American who either earns a wage or employs someone who does, he would know that pct.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    For dog sake, number 1 in their platform is all about supplyside economics. It's the idea that the government can reduce taxes and bring in more revenue from taxes. Bush 2 destroyed that notion for good!


    "But the real jolt for tax-cutting opponents was that the 03 Bush tax cuts also generated a massive increase in federal tax receipts. From 2004 to 2007, federal tax revenues increased by $785 billion, the largest four-year increase in American history. According to the Treasury Department, individual and corporate income tax receipts were up 40 percent in the three years following the Bush tax cuts. And (bonus) the rich paid an even higher percentage of the total tax burden than they had at any time in at least the previous 40 years. This was news to theNew York Times, whose astonished editorial board could only describe the gains as a “surprise windfall.”

    Read more: DWYER: Bush tax cuts boosted federal revenue - Washington Times
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    Things do get "destroyed". Many times it's by tax increases, other times it's by facts.
    "“If we don’t deepen our ports all along the Gulf — places like Charleston, South Carolina; or Savannah, Georgia; or Jacksonville, Florida…” -Obama

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    True or false. Do the income tax rates quoted by the IRS include the payroll tax?

    2013 Tax Rate Schedules: Marginal Ordinary Income Tax Rates for 2013





    Tell us, boy.

    This should be fun

    what relevance does that have? what are payroll "taxes" SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    What's stupid is your inability to cite the actual numbers to back that up, even though we've ed at you forever and asked you like 10 times
    I don't tend to cater to the demands of posters whose posts are generally dishonest and fail to honestly address the issue



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    what relevance does that have? what are payroll "taxes" SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR
    Please explain how the govt's claims about what tax monies are used for (which are frequently false) makes those monies not be a tax.

    This should be more fun :lmao:

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Please explain how the govt's claims about what tax monies are used for (which are frequently false) makes those monies not be a tax.

    This should be more fun :lmao:
    Please explain why you have continually danced around the fact that the top 5% pay more than half of the Federal Income Tax and have dishonestly pretended that payroll taxes (aka "contributions to the social security, medicare etc)



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Please explain why you have continually danced around the fact that the top 5% pay more than half of the Federal Income Tax
    Because every single time anyone has asked you to cite the evidence for it, you crawl back under your shell .

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Because every single time anyone has asked you to cite the evidence for it, you crawl back under your shell .
    NOpe, I assume people who feel they are up to arguing with me are aware of obvious facts. One of those is the tax burden

    I have posted this citation dozens of times

    I guess some don't wish to remember what they were taught

    top 5% paid 58.7% of the federal Income Tax burden

    Summary of Latest Federal Individual Income Tax Data | Tax Foundation



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