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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    WRONG. Libertarians want reduced government size, scope, and power.

    teatards, OTOH, are just morons who like to play w/guns (i. e. support the 2nd Amendment) but otherwise favor large, wasteful, federal budgets to bomb the gummint's manufactured boogeymen in the ME as well as well as a large big-brotherish nanny state that supervises reproductive tracts and bedrooms.
    Perhaps you should read that link I gave to Michael, too, before you go on spouting off with ultra-left nonsense.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Perhaps you should read that link I gave to Michael, too, before you go on spouting off with ultra-left nonsense.
    Perhaps you should look at this before you consider the tpers to be anything but nonsense. . .

    Tea Party loses a top voice with Bachmann departure

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    WRONG. Libertarians want reduced government size, scope, and power.

    teatards, OTOH, are just morons who like to play w/guns (i. e. support the 2nd Amendment) but otherwise favor large, wasteful, federal budgets to bomb the gummint's manufactured boogeymen in the ME as well as well as a large big-brotherish nanny state that supervises reproductive tracts and bedrooms.
    Poll Finds Tea Party Backers Wealthier and More Educated ...

    www.nytimes.com/2010/04/15/us/politics/15poll.html‎
    Apr 14, 2010 - Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public and tend to be Republican, white, male and married, ...
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is my comment just so people can see Solletica is misrepresenting my comment. Federal income tax burden means the federal income tax. Not payroll tax, not social security tax, not revenue tax on spirits tobacco or firearms etc
    Tax is tax. The federal government raised the social security tax during the Reagan administration and it has been used to cash flow the government since. Suggesting that payroll taxes are a lesser tax, given that it all goes to the same pool, is a bit disingenuous. Further evidence of this commingling is now people believe that social security is an area we can reign in, calling it broke, even though it is fully funded 15 years out.... why? because the obligations and revenues are all commingled in the eyes of the politicians and cutting social security (though it suppose to be stand alone) they view as cutting government spending.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is my comment just so people can see Solletica is misrepresenting my comment. Federal income tax burden means the federal income tax. Not payroll tax
    Payroll taxes are income taxes, because they come out of people's pockets at tax time by the federal govt. based on one's income and are not given back to the person paying it, which is what makes it a tax.

    It's only not a "tax" in limbaugh's anus.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Tax is tax.
    But according to td, it's not because people supposedly don't mind money being forcibly taken from them by the govt. as long as it's not classified as a "federal income withholding tax."
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Payroll taxes are income taxes, because they come out of people's pockets at tax time by the federal govt. based on one's income and are not given back to the person paying it, which is what makes it a tax.

    It's only not a "tax" in limbaugh's anus.
    stop lying. Payroll taxes are not included as Federal Income taxes. Your rants about Limbaugh are just plain pavlovian nonsense.



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Tax is tax. The federal government raised the social security tax during the Reagan administration and it has been used to cash flow the government since. Suggesting that payroll taxes are a lesser tax, given that it all goes to the same pool, is a bit disingenuous. Further evidence of this commingling is now people believe that social security is an area we can reign in, calling it broke, even though it is fully funded 15 years out.... why? because the obligations and revenues are all commingled in the eyes of the politicians and cutting social security (though it suppose to be stand alone) they view as cutting government spending.
    That has nothing to do with my point. Since you all cannot dispute the fact that the top 5% pay more than half of the Federal Income Taxes (and all the DEATH TAX) you have to change the parameters.

    its you Democrats and Progressives who foisted the social security ponzi scheme on us-not the GOP



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Today, the MRI by itself is considered a rather primitive imaging device.

    For most applications (i. e. spinal imaging), it has been superseded by more selective magnetic resonance imaging techniques (MR Neurography, MR Elastography, MR Venography, etc.), and none those technologies are covered by Obamcare, nor were they ever covered by any health insurer in the US.

    Yes, healthcare standards are better in the US, but only if one pays for it out of pocket.
    Not relevant. At the time I was speaking about, the MRI was the standard for state of the art diagnosis of soft tissue issues.



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