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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    We're having some massive delusions of grandeur - aren't we? Prove it.
    What "delusions of grandeur"? I was not a part of either.

    But when thousands gather on town squares in 2008, sounding certain very particular themes, and then tens of thousands gather on the same squares in 2009 - many of them the same very people - sounding exactly the same themes - or no, there's no connection. It's happening only because Obama was elected President, and his father was black....

    Please.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Tea Party hasn't existed for 30 years.
    The point went so far over your head I'm wondering if Gary Coleman invaded your brain.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    What "delusions of grandeur"? I was not a part of either.

    But when thousands gather on town squares in 2008, sounding certain very particular themes, and then tens of thousands gather on the same squares in 2009 - many of them the same very people - sounding exactly the same themes - or no, there's no connection. It's happening only because Obama was elected President, and his father was black....

    Please.
    What year was Obama elected in? How long have we been trillions in debt?
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So what you're saying is that you would have been fine with 3 more trillion in debt but not 7?
    So what are you saying, that there's no difference?
    Who chimes "No Absolutes!" chimes absolutely.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The point went so far over your head I'm wondering if Gary Coleman invaded your brain.
    When you use race as cover for incompetance, you denegrate the entire race.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    As a Democrat:
    Strangely enough, I'm okay with it. This has been needed since 2008 and the past few election cycles have just been working up to it.

    The political landscape has massively changed in the near two decades since 1994 compared to the five decades prior to it. The Republican Party is no longer firmly situated into the role of the neigh permanent minority party in power. This is inevitably going to create a change within the mindset and mentality of the base and those within the party infastructure.

    I'm honestly unsure which way this battle goes as it continues, and I don't think it's going to end this election cycle or next, but I think ultimately it's needed within the Republican party. At this point there is a significant divide in terms of the mentality, purpose, and practice within the party that needs to be addressed in some fashion to have a unified message and to allow a "norm" to be established with some acceptable outliers as opposed to two distinct and significant camps.

    It'll likely cause Republicans some issues over the next election, and it will make the 2016 presidential election season extremely interesting. I think it'll be three election cycles....so 2018...before we truly have a good view of how this battle ends up turning out.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem is the Tea Party movement was never about that. It was a direct reaction to Obama's election. They had no problem with growing debt for 30 years. They suddenly have a problem with it when Obama gets elected.
    Actually, you are wrong.

    The biggest effect the Tea Party had on the government was the 2010 election. Obama wasn't affected, but many Democrat AND Republican lawmakers were.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinWillers View Post
    So what are you saying, that there's no difference?
    Lol, when you're in that much debt as a country? Nope. Not one bit. We may as well be 40 trillion in debt - judging by the supposed "fiscal conservatism" of the right and the left's spending, we may soon be. The difference between left wing spending and right wing spending is that the right wing only cares about spending when they're not in power.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What year was Obama elected in? How long have we been trillions in debt?
    When did the solution to the debt become, to double it?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So what you're saying is that you would have been fine with 3 more trillion in debt but not 7?
    I'm not talking about myself. I would prefer we peg spending/revenue to GDP.

    For others, like the ones you are calling racists, its like boiling a frog. Turn it up slowly, and he will roast without wondering why he's sweating. Drop him right in boiling water and he jumps out.

    But of course, its just easier to toss out labels like racist or bigot instead of having a policy discussion.

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