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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

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    Right wing murder fantasies can be entertaining as well as disturbing.

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    He actually believes that the large agricultural concerns (the one's that produce most of this countrys' food) whose biggest customer is the US govt is going to side with a bunch of loons.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And where do you think those tea party yokels fall?
    half the left criticize the tea party activists as being greedy rich people who don't want to support the "needy" and half claim they are undereducated yokels who should be sucking on the public teat.

    when those who hate the TEA PARTY can decide what their position is, then I will address your question



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you are diverting once again. I stated a fact-the top 5% paid more of the FEDERAL INCOME TAX burden than the bottom 95%
    They don't. And FYI, payroll taxes are indeed a federal income tax--they're taxes levied on wage earners by the federal govt.

    Even otherwise, any relevant discussion on the total federal tax burden must include all levied federal taxes. Otherwise, the statistic has no practical value.

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    Your rush fixation is stupid and has no relevance to any of my posts
    We're all wondering why you still use him as a source. Have you asked him to explain to you the concept of a payroll tax? Do you even know what it is?

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I merely state what is obvious to most people and let them judge if I am accurate or not. Since no one has criticized my statements, I take that as affirmation that they agree with my charges
    You do so love the fallacy of Argumentum ad Populum.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    CORRECT. Payroll taxes are levied on income. When you do your own taxes, you will learn this.



    Prove it. Cite evidence showing that the TOTAL income tax burden, which includes all taxes on income, including payroll taxes, and available deductions and subsidies, is greater for the upper 5% than the lower 95%.

    We're all waiting for your cited evidence, as opposed to more of your hero (rush)'s opinions. . .

    why are you DISHONESTLY demanding I prove something I NEVER CLAIMED?



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You do so love the fallacy of Argumentum ad Populum.
    You love substituting silly HS debate terms that have no relevance to this discussion. YOu confuse my not satisfying your demands with being unable to prove my assertions.



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    half the left criticize the tea party activists as being greedy rich people who don't want to support the "needy" and half claim they are undereducated yokels who should be sucking on the public teat.

    when those who hate the TEA PARTY can decide what their position is, then I will address your question
    And your proof of this allegation is where exactly?

    As usual - your posts are merely pompous personal pontifications devoid of any evidence.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I merely state what is obvious to most people
    What's obvious to most people is your inability to cite anything to back up your assertions.

    I ask again: cite actual evidence from an official source showing that the TOTAL federal tax burden for the upper 5% exceeds that of the lower 95%.

    We're still waiting. . .

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You love substituting silly HS debate terms that have no relevance to this discussion. YOu confuse my not satisfying your demands with being unable to prove my assertions.
    that is only your opinion because you have no idea what actual debate is and each and every post from you proves it.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    What's obvious to most people is your inability to cite anything to back up your assertions.

    I ask again: cite actual evidence from an official source showing that the TOTAL federal tax burden for the upper 5% exceeds that of the lower 95%.

    We're still waiting. . .
    He never does ... he never does. Its all pompous personal pontifications.
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