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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The trail of tears with the KKK is painfully clear..

    Too bad they didn't stay with their anti tax activism,
    which immediately morphed into an unachievable position, getting rid of the 16th..
    You must be concerned with Cruz and circus as the face of your movement .
    I am concerned how many slow witted americans thinks we can tax our way to prosperity and think that America should become a nation of dependent children



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's just nonsense trying to equate anti tax activists with the Klan
    The Klan and the average conservative voter have one thing in common--they suck at basic arithmetic and/or evidence, which explains why, whenever asked to cite evidence to prove their silly claims about the upper 5% paying most of the TOTAL tax burden (which includes subsidies, available deductions, AND the payroll tax), they crawl back under their shell and run away, i e. no citations are ever supplied.

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Until you so-called 'concerned tax-payers' take a closer look at back-in-black plans like Sen. Coburn, we're all doomed..
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am concerned how many slow witted americans thinks we can tax our way to prosperity
    Budgets seemed to be going along well through the Clinton-2001 until the Bush/Cheney/McConnell tax cuts..
    Republican debaters rejected a 10-for-1 swap for a grand bargain..
    Coburn's plan was 8-for-1 and revenue did not come from increased taxes..
    and think that America should become a nation of dependent children
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The Klan and the average conservative voter have one thing in common--they suck at basic arithmetic and/or evidence, which explains why, whenever asked to cite evidence to prove their silly claims about the upper 5% paying most of the TOTAL tax burden (which includes subsidies, available deductions, AND the payroll tax), they crawl back under their shell and run away, i e. no citations are ever supplied.

    I said the top 5% pay more than half the FEDERAL INCOME TAX burden. Throw in the surcharge on the top tax payers-the death tax and its even higher.

    So stop lying about what I said.



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    its certainly far lower on the bottom 95% who pay less of the total federal income tax burden than in any time in the last 60 years. This is why government spending is out of control-most people don't get taxed to pay for what they want
    Here is my comment just so people can see Solletica is misrepresenting my comment. Federal income tax burden means the federal income tax. Not payroll tax, not social security tax, not revenue tax on spirits tobacco or firearms etc



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am concerned how many slow witted americans thinks we can tax our way to prosperity and think that America should become a nation of dependent children
    We all know who the dependent children are. . .

    Indeed, Mr Romney made good on his threat: senior executives at Bain & Company did start getting big bonuses as the negotiations were ongoing in the early 1990s. In the end, says Mr Dickinson, "The FDIC agreed to accept nearly $5 million in cash to retire $15 million in Bain's debt—an immediate government bailout of $10 million."

    Mitt Romney and Bain & Company: A bail-out for Romney? | The Economist

    http://www.moneynews.com/StreetTalk/...6/16/id/362180

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    We all know who the dependent children are. . .
    more of that populist nonsense.



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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Here is my comment just so people can see Solletica is misrepresenting my comment. Federal income tax burden means the federal income tax. Not payroll tax, not social security tax, not revenue tax on spirits tobacco or firearms etc
    Any money that the govt. takes from someone involuntarily that is computed from one's income, is by definition, a tax on income.

    Or else you could try convincing someone that some of the money taken from him/her on April 15 wasn't really a tax because the govt. chose not to call it that?!

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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    who has your back?
    I have no idea what you are talking about---- only that you failed to provide an answer to the question.
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    Re: The Republican civil war is just getting started

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Lincoln was a racist, who was afraid that free blacks would cause a mongrolization of the races in America and Washington owned slaves.
    And, that still doesnt' change the fact they were liberal during their time. Just because certain ideologies change as society matures doesn't make it less liberal or that person less liberal during their time frame of life. Nearly all of our founding fathers were liberals especially when they became President. They did things, many things outside of the Constitution and some of the time it was for the better, others not so much.
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would LOVE to see some links! Can't wait to see what nimrod, so-called historian considers Lincoln, or Washington a Leftist.
    The Murray-Blessing 1982 survey would be the one I'm referring to, roughly 1,997 requests were sent out to all of the then current Ph.D Historians in the US.

    On top of this:

    Lincoln was the first President to pass an income tax into law. He ended slavery. He also signed the Homestead Act in 1862, making millions of acres of government-held land in the West available for purchase at very low cost. The Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Act, also signed in 1862, provided government grants for agricultural colleges in each state. The Pacific Railway Acts of 1862 and 1864 granted federal support for the construction of the United States’ First Transcontinental Railroad, which was completed in 1869. He also modernized America’s economic, communications, and financial infrastructure.

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