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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I can't say, upon hearing primary bit of credentials, I was especially thrilled with selection of the new secretary my agency falls under.

    I'm not shocked that Obama would put someone tied to his administration into the office...that's kind of status quo for politicians (And at this point anyone that thought his "Change from Politics as Usual" shtick was legitimate is a master of self deception). But would've hoped for someone with a bit more tangible and substantial law enforcement or counter terrorism experience. Then again, with the Napolitano pick previously, I'm not exactly surprised.

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    Well I don't claim to be an expert on the qualifications for the DHS, but just reading his very short Wikipedia page it doesn't look like he has them. Yes my opinion is formed on a low amount of questionable information, but I'm not stuck on it either. But yes I would have liked to see some more experience with the issues the DHS faces, not necessarily a lawyer.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Will Republicans shut down the government over this nominee?

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    I don't imagine that he has much input in these things. As I've said, when Progressive Insurance needs to make a big decision, they don't ask Flo.

    President Defacto Jarrett is much more likely the author of this travesty.
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Being a lawyer covers a broad range of potential duties. Here is his most recent job: General Counsel of the Department of Defense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    As your article points out., General Counsel is a lawyer. He deals solely with legal matters. He doesn't make policy, make decisions, manage people, do any purchasing, isn't really responsible for anything. Youre making my point.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Not sure where you retrieved the mission criteria for DHS from (I assume it was from the law that created the agency), but the core roles as outlined at dhs.gov are:



    #3 is where being an experienced lawyer would certainly come into play. Seems all other core responsibilities would fall under having "sound management skills".

    I could understand if people would prefer having someone with an intelligence background holding the Sec, DHS position based on items 1 and 2, but if you limit the scope of experience in that way wouldn't that also mean the individual would also require a background in IT security and previously held the position of FEMA at least at the state level somewhere?

    Since "capture and hold" individuals who violate our national security, immigration and cyber-security laws seem to be the focus of the Sec, DHS position, it makes sense to find someone with a strong legal background to put in the position.

    You can read more about DHS at their website, Homeland Security.

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    Again, what does a lawyer know about enforcing the law? You don't hire a lawyer to be sheriff. You hire a cop with management skills. And yes, having someone who knows something about cybersecurity, emergency management, etc is exactly who you want. This is why governors are the natural choice for such executive positions.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Again, what does a lawyer know about enforcing the law? You don't hire a lawyer to be sheriff. You hire a cop with management skills. And yes, having someone who knows something about cybersecurity, emergency management, etc is exactly who you want. This is why governors are the natural choice for such executive positions.
    Come now, if nominated as Sec, DHS, he'd interpret immigration law like any other lawyer and, as should, be bound by his oath of office to enforce immigration policy. Frankly, I'd prefer such an individual come from the intelligence community since criteria #1 and #2 deal with aspects of anti-terrorism, but lacking such a background, I can accept an individual with a strong legal background because that's also what holding the position would require.

    As for nominating a governor for the position, I seriously doubt an acting Governor would level such a job just to hold a federal job without the perks that come with living in the Governor's Mansion.
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Come now, if nominated as Sec, DHS, he'd interpret immigration law like any other lawyer and, as should, be bound by his oath of office to enforce immigration policy. Frankly, I'd prefer such an individual come from the intelligence community since criteria #1 and #2 deal with aspects of anti-terrorism, but lacking such a background, I can accept an individual with a strong legal background because that's also what holding the position would require.

    As for nominating a governor for the position, I seriously doubt an acting Governor would level such a job just to hold a federal job without the perks that come with living in the Governor's Mansion.
    It could be a former governor. Jeb Bush for example.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Will Republicans shut down the government over this nominee?
    Will progressives ever be truthful about their leanings, and agenda's?
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    Will Republicans shut down the government over this nominee?
    How could they? Funding has already been approved.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Oh come on, you now Obama is political. He's probably a buddy. Look, I get that but people should have some background.
    It's just Obama that's "political," though. It's not like George W. Bush tried to appoint his own goddamn lawyer to the Supreme Court.
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