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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Really? Seriously? Guess that judge who threw out the name Messiah wasn't around when he was born.
    He was not serious. Jeh Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    ohnson’s first name (pronounced “Jay”) is taken from a Liberian chief, who reportedly saved his grandfather’s life while Dr. Johnson was on a League of Nations mission to Liberia in 1930.[2]
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Thanks - that sounds far more reasonable
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    1. Probably.

    2. Look on the bright side. If we are attacked, he'd probably be great at writing the legal brief protesting the attack!

    3. Why not appoint Sheriff Arpaio if he's serious about border security? I know, I know, wrong eye color, right?

    Since Jeh is a friend of BHO, he doubtless thinks like BHO, so there goes any thought about controlling illegal immigration! : He'll probably have big "welcome" signs posted instead.

    Greetings, Jonny5.
    You might want to reconsider your position on this one because the facts just don't support your claim (sarcastic as it might be).

    From NationalJournal.com:

    Actually, Obama Has Been Terrible for Immigrants - NationalJournal.com

    The first black president could be the one who detains and deports the most brown people in U.S. history. Without a course correction, that’s the legacy President Obama is building, and it could put him and his Democratic allies at odds with the fastest-growing demographic in the country.

    Obama is on track to deport 3 million immigrants without papers by the end of his second term, more than any other president. George W. Bush deported about 2 million over two terms.
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Another unqualified second rate person joins Team Obama.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    You might want to reconsider your position on this one because the facts just don't support your claim (sarcastic as it might be).

    From NationalJournal.com:

    Actually, Obama Has Been Terrible for Immigrants - NationalJournal.com
    Obama's deportation numbers are just another Obama lie and have been cooked.

    Obama counts those illegal aliens who are caught at the border as being deported. Only a court can deport someone.

    How the Obama Administration Inflates Deportation Statistics

    >" For the last few years, the Obama Administration has claimed that it's deporting a record number of illegal aliens. But, the Administration is adding numbers to its overall deportation statistics that have not been historically included in the total number of annual deportations. Here's a look at how the Obama Administration has artificially inflated the number of deportations.

    Download the Fact Sheet







    •Removal numbers have traditionally consisted of legal immigrants who have committed crimes, those who overstay visas, or illegal aliens caught inside the country.
    ◦The immigration statistics yearbook states that removals are the compulsory and confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States based on an order of removal.
    ◦An alien who is removed has administrative or criminal consequences placed on subsequent reentry owing to the fact of the removal.
    •In the past, removal numbers did not include “returns,” who are Mexican nationals caught illegally crossing the border by the Border Patrol and returned.
    ◦According to the yearbook, returns are the confirmed movement of an inadmissible or deportable alien out of the United States not based on an order of removal.
    ◦Most of the voluntary returns are of Mexican nationals who have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol and are returned to Mexico.
    •The Obama administration has started counting certain “returns” as “removals” in order to artificially inflate the numbers and create a “record level” of deportations. Specifically, those caught by the Border Patrol who are shuttled to a different town along the border before they are returned are being dishonestly counted as deportations. This has falsely increased the number of total removals by more than 100,000 for the past two years.
    •In fact, if we count removals and returns together historically, then the Obama administration numbers are not close to “record-setting.” In the 1990s, the totals of returns and removals were well over one million. For example, according to the yearbook of immigration statistics, in 1996, removals and returns numbered more than 1.6 million, up from more than 1.3 million in 1995.
    •In an October 2011 roundtable with Hispanic reporters, President Obama himself said the deportation numbers were artificially high because they include those caught at the border:..."<

    continue -> https://www.numbersusa.com/content/n...tatistics.html

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    I'd agree with you, Apacherat, except the criteria for deportations seems to have changed considerable since the Clinton Administration as the article I linked to from the National Journal would indicate. As such, President Obama's deportation numbers may not be as conflated as you think.

    As I've said before, each successive Administration executes legal authority/administrative policy based on actions from their predecessor. Therefore, unless Congress changes the law(s) accordingly...

    Nuff Said.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No surprise from you, all you have are your election day talking point. Here's the dirty little secret, lots of people were elected on Election Day, not just your personal savior. Get over it. I doubt you shut you hole up and sat down the day Bush was re-elected.
    Well, you once more demonstrate your total ignorance regarding how the U.S. Government works. See, it's like this. There are a lot of appointed positions, and the guy who's been elected President gets to appoint people to fill those positions. Are you with me so far, or am I going too fast?

    Some of these positions are subject to confirmation, but the way its supposed to work is that the Senate confirms the President's appointments unless they are criminals or unless they are proven to be unqualified for the position. You don't get to vote no on his appointments because you don't like the President or his politics. I'll repeat: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

    As for Republican Presidents, I said exactly the same thing. Elections have consequences. Its really not that difficult - unless, of course, your just a partisan no-nothing who would just like to pretend that the 2012 election never happened. Oh, wait a minute..........
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

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    I love it when the right wing attacks and they rest of their brethren follow like sheep.
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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Doesnt look like a great choice.
    I can't say, upon hearing primary bit of credentials, I was especially thrilled with selection of the new secretary my agency falls under.

    I'm not shocked that Obama would put someone tied to his administration into the office...that's kind of status quo for politicians (And at this point anyone that thought his "Change from Politics as Usual" shtick was legitimate is a master of self deception). But would've hoped for someone with a bit more tangible and substantial law enforcement or counter terrorism experience. Then again, with the Napolitano pick previously, I'm not exactly surprised.

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    Re: Obama’s DHS pick a major Democratic donor, senators question credentials

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, you once more demonstrate your total ignorance regarding how the U.S. Government works. See, it's like this. There are a lot of appointed positions, and the guy who's been elected President gets to appoint people to fill those positions. Are you with me so far, or am I going too fast?

    Some of these positions are subject to confirmation, but the way its supposed to work is that the Senate confirms the President's appointments unless they are criminals or unless they are proven to be unqualified for the position. You don't get to vote no on his appointments because you don't like the President or his politics. I'll repeat: ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

    As for Republican Presidents, I said exactly the same thing. Elections have consequences. Its really not that difficult - unless, of course, your just a partisan no-nothing who would just like to pretend that the 2012 election never happened. Oh, wait a minute..........
    Some people are closer to what's going on in the govt than some sailor, so just remember one thing. You may not always know who you're really talking on the Internet. Secondly, you can't escape those "consequences".
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