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Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143:248]

re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges | Fox News

so even with the dismal amount that were able to enroll that is even screwed up
so when are you liberal going to come to the inevitable conclusion this is not working it will never work and all your doing at this point is allowing your pride and your reluctance to admit failure get in the way of doing the right thing and that is repeal and replace. you rather see millions suffer so to keep from that realization that Obama care is a total unmitigated disaster
And you want to call the Tea Party terrorist and hostage takers?

It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?
 
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Another thing that bothers me about this exchange is the fact that it takes insurance salespeople out of the mix. The greater majority of people need someone to interpret insurance legalese. Even though these programs are supposed to be idiot proof? When I was able to briefly view options, they were confusing to me. I've learned that if I'm confused, the greater majority of people are as well.

Insurance salespeople are able to cut through the baloney and compare features. There's a huge assumption being made that people are going to take the time and have the smarts to wade through the exchange and determine what policy is most advantageous for them. That, in my opinion, is a mistake.

In my state (NY) there is a checkbox you can click on to request a "Broker/Navigator/Application Counselor" to help you.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?

your tinfoil hat is on crooked
 
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re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

In my state (NY) there is a checkbox you can click on to request a "Broker/Navigator/Application Counselor" to help you.
the Obama care navigators :lamo union and acorn thugs that has no experience with 20 hour of training and no back ground checks
your better off consulting to a magic 8 ball at least you will know with the magic 8 ball your personal information will remain secure
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?

It's not working because it was set up by a bunch of dumbasses who have no idea what they're doing, don't give a rat's ass whether it works or not, and aren't accountable for ****.
 
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And rightfully so. We could have done things in a more compartmentalized manner that would have allowed people to understand it better, and see what is in it, but that just would not do now would it? No, it had to be lied about, demagogued, and have its opponents demonized, and guess what? It still is opposed by more than half of the actual American people.....

But eh, that is what these sheeple voted for right? :shrug:

The Obama Supporters (who suck a lot of ****) didn't want anyone to know the truth

The Obama Supporters (pigs who pass out candy and try to fondle children) purposely lied to The Public
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

It's not working because it was set up by a bunch of dumbasses who have no idea what they're doing, don't give a rat's ass whether it works or not, and aren't accountable for ****.

That's just silly. In any case, enrollment problems have nothing to do with whether it will work for millions of Americans who are going without. You must know that at least. Doesn't honesty mean anything to you?

Or is the honesty that's missing in fact because you don't want others to have affordable health care?
 
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And rightfully so. We could have done things in a more compartmentalized manner that would have allowed people to understand it better, and see what is in it, but that just would not do now would it? No, it had to be lied about, demagogued, and have its opponents demonized, and guess what? It still is opposed by more than half of the actual American people.....

But eh, that is what these sheeple voted for right? :shrug:

You can fault the Democrats, sure, but the Republicans ranting about death panels and offing gramma didn't help at all. A rational discussion and logical way to fix the high cost of medical care would have no doubt served us better, but there is plenty of blame to go around for the fact that the problem is not fixed and costs are likely to continue to soar.
 
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Well that's about as accurate as saying the democrat mantra for solving the problem of those without insurance was to pass a law requiring it.

which is why there is a lot more to the ACA than that, and still a lot more work that has to be done.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

You can fault the Democrats, sure, but the Republicans ranting about death panels and offing gramma didn't help at all. A rational discussion and logical way to fix the high cost of medical care would have no doubt served us better, but there is plenty of blame to go around for the fact that the problem is not fixed and costs are likely to continue to soar.

When the system has been fixed to make sure the wealthy don't have to pay the bills, there is no incentive to fix it to make it affordable. Canada's health care system is rated higher than the US's and costs roughly 1/2 per capita.

Are baggers interested in concentrating on doing something about that?

No, because there is nothing behind their agenda but racist hate for Obama. It has nothing to do with anything else. Cruz is putting that hate to work for him and his wealthy benefactors.
 
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In wealthy first world countries affordable and good health care is a right of 'all' the people.

In third world countries it is not!

Where does America want to place itself?

It can't get anymore simple than that!
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

In wealthy first world countries affordable and good health care is a right of 'all' the people.

In third world countries it is not!

Where does America want to place itself?

It can't get anymore simple than that!

Health care is a service, not a right. No one has a right to expect someone else to provide a service...
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Health care is a service, not a right. No one has a right to expect someone else to provide a service...

It seems to me we pay pretty dearly for the privilege of excluding the poor from that service.
 
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It seems to me we pay pretty dearly for the privilege of excluding the poor from that service.

No, we pay due to Congressional edict...
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Health care is a service, not a right. No one has a right to expect someone else to provide a service...

No, health care is a right for people in all advanced wealthy, first world countries except America. You can't take that right away from us, you can only withhold it from your own people. At least for a little longer but not indefinitely.

So see it as a service if you must, you are only denying yourselves the service or rights others have in other countries.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

No, health care is a right for people in all advanced wealthy, first world countries except America. You can't take that right away from us, you can only withhold it from your own people. At least for a little longer but not indefinitely.

So see it as a service if you must, you are only denying yourselves the service or rights others have in other countries.

Rights are inherent to the individual, not something another individual is forced to provide to another...
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

No, we pay due to Congressional edict...

Congress has declared that we pay twice as much as the French do?
And that's from before Obamacare was even thought of.

When did they issue such an edict?
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Rights are inherent to the individual, not something another individual is forced to provide to another...

So rights are something you have to give me, not something I have to give you.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Health care is a service, not a right. No one has a right to expect someone else to provide a service...
So then you do not have a right to life? If the argument is that the state can stop a women from terminating a pregnancy, are you going to argue that the state has no interest in providing care for that life before or after birth?

From another perspective, is the general welfare clause going to be limited to laws that do not involve paying for care to those who cannot afford to do so. Are you going to reverse federal tax payment already made to hospitals for unpaid medical care?

You are playing a semantic game with a concept that already has been established in our constitution. The state is mandated to care for its population, we mandated that we care for all of us.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Congress has declared that we pay twice as much as the French do?
And that's from before Obamacare was even thought of.

When did they issue such an edict?

If you like the system in France, move. I believe it was 1986 when it was required that hospitals treat anyone who came in the door. The current employer based insurance system began when government froze wages during WWII, and government interference never works out very well...
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

You can fault the Democrats, sure, but the Republicans ranting about death panels and offing gramma didn't help at all. A rational discussion and logical way to fix the high cost of medical care would have no doubt served us better, but there is plenty of blame to go around for the fact that the problem is not fixed and costs are likely to continue to soar.

We would have loved to be included. Too bad that demo's that had total control over government chose to lock those doors. As for "death panels", we will see won't we? And "offing gramma" really? You want to go there? Remember that ad about Ryan? Who did that? Repubs or demo's?
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

Rights are inherent to the individual, not something another individual is forced to provide to another...
I thought the argument was that the state should not be forced to provide a service.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

I believe it was 1986 when it was required that hospitals treat anyone who came in the door.
So you do recognize that the state can force for services to be provided.
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

I thought the argument was that the state should not be forced to provide a service.

Oh, so you simply don't understand...Well, that clears some things up...:)
 
re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

So you do recognize that the state can force for services to be provided.

That is different....But you know that.
 
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