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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    At a certain point, software cannot simply be patched to fix the problems with it. Sometimes you just have to redesign and recreate the entire platform. I think that is what is going to have to happen with the federal Obamacare exchange platform. There appears to be too many problems with it to simply fix it. From account creation and user interfacing to information storage and dispersement, there is little to the program that appears to work correctly. Add in the report that proper computer coding protocols weren't followed (which makes it more difficult for other individuals to work with the program) and I think the most cost-effective solution is to trash the whole code and start over.

    Politics are involved so they probably won't do that (that would involve admitting failure/ finding an adequate scapegoat), leading to a long cascade of problems which endlessly frustrate the end users while costing us billions/trillions of dollars. I think the best solution would have been to delay the individual mandate to allow the program designers to be fired and to allow for the development process to start over.

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    At a certain point, software cannot simply be patched to fix the problems with it. Sometimes you just have to redesign and recreate the entire platform. I think that is what is going to have to happen with the federal Obamacare exchange platform. There appears to be too many problems with it to simply fix it. From account creation and user interfacing to information storage and dispersement, there is little to the program that appears to work correctly. Add in the report that proper computer coding protocols weren't followed (which makes it more difficult for other individuals to work with the program) and I think the most cost-effective solution is to trash the whole code and start over.

    Politics are involved so they probably won't do that (that would involve admitting failure/ finding an adequate scapegoat), leading to a long cascade of problems which endlessly frustrate the end users while costing us billions/trillions of dollars. I think the best solution would have been to delay the individual mandate to allow the program designers to be fired and to allow for the development process to start over.
    they wont delay it and risk the chance of republicans gaining control and repeal it they rather it have millions suffer caused by the train wreck than risk the chance of repeal

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'd imagine that's because the Obamacare policies are deemed conforming. Republicans were wrong if they thought that was all that was necessary. Pre-existing conditions needed to be addressed. And, unfortunately, without a mandate for enrollment, premiums would have necessarily sky-rocketed to cover them.
    Exactly.

    Premiums have, in fact, been skyrocketing for quite some time now. They will probably continue to increase, with the difference being that now the increase can be blamed on the Democrats.
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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Exactly.

    Premiums have, in fact, been skyrocketing for quite some time now. They will probably continue to increase, with the difference being that now the increase can be blamed on the Democrats.
    And rightfully so. We could have done things in a more compartmentalized manner that would have allowed people to understand it better, and see what is in it, but that just would not do now would it? No, it had to be lied about, demagogued, and have its opponents demonized, and guess what? It still is opposed by more than half of the actual American people.....

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Interesting that you should bring up state regulation. One of the mantras of the Republicans during the health care debate was that all we need to do is allow insurers to operate across state lines, and costs will go down. The truth of the matter is that insurers can operate across state lines, and always have had that ability, so long as they conform to the regulations of the state in which they're selling insurance. Now, one of the things in Obamacare is allowing insurers to operate across state lines. Interesting, no?
    Well that's about as accurate as saying the democrat mantra for solving the problem of those without insurance was to pass a law requiring it.

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges | Fox News

    so even with the dismal amount that were able to enroll that is even screwed up
    so when are you liberal going to come to the inevitable conclusion this is not working it will never work and all your doing at this point is allowing your pride and your reluctance to admit failure get in the way of doing the right thing and that is repeal and replace. you rather see millions suffer so to keep from that realization that Obama care is a total unmitigated disaster
    And you want to call the Tea Party terrorist and hostage takers?
    It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

    And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Another thing that bothers me about this exchange is the fact that it takes insurance salespeople out of the mix. The greater majority of people need someone to interpret insurance legalese. Even though these programs are supposed to be idiot proof? When I was able to briefly view options, they were confusing to me. I've learned that if I'm confused, the greater majority of people are as well.

    Insurance salespeople are able to cut through the baloney and compare features. There's a huge assumption being made that people are going to take the time and have the smarts to wade through the exchange and determine what policy is most advantageous for them. That, in my opinion, is a mistake.
    In my state (NY) there is a checkbox you can click on to request a "Broker/Navigator/Application Counselor" to help you.
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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

    And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?
    your tinfoil hat is on crooked
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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In my state (NY) there is a checkbox you can click on to request a "Broker/Navigator/Application Counselor" to help you.
    the Obama care navigators union and acorn thugs that has no experience with 20 hour of training and no back ground checks
    your better off consulting to a magic 8 ball at least you will know with the magic 8 ball your personal information will remain secure

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    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael66 View Post
    It's not working because of glitches in the enrollment processes. How patently dishonest to attempt to confuse that with it not being able to work to benefit millions of Americans who have been suffering for years for want of proper and affordable health care!

    And then, behind the scenes, you can bet that it's being sabotaged by those who stand to lose millions or billions in profit when it starts to work. Are Americans so stupid that they can't understand that?
    It's not working because it was set up by a bunch of dumbasses who have no idea what they're doing, don't give a rat's ass whether it works or not, and aren't accountable for ****.

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