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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    This is the overwhelming proof of Obama's lack of management skills. we are told for example, "experts" are working on a fix for the computer problems people are experiencing trying to log on to the site. Is it unreasonable to ask where were the "experts" when this mess was being set up? If this were a company the top mangers would all be fired. Did they not anticipate this??!! This is the equivalent to building a billion dollar sports area and a parking lot for one thousand cars. If you were in the conference meetings held during the creation of this would you not speak up and question "why" the program is not being set up to handle an avalanche of applicants? Who gets hurt here? The politicians? Of course not.
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is even more insidious here, is that from what I understand, that portion that the employer pays as compensation will start to be taxed next year, as income....
    Take the source or leave it, but here is an explanation of that:

    Q: My tax professional told me that my employer-paid health care plan will now be taxed as part of my income. Is this true?

    A: Employer-provided insurance, in general, is still not included as taxable income, says Mark Luscombe of Wolters Kluwer Tax & Accounting. There have been some exceptions one example is health insurance for domestic partners up until the recent Supreme Court decision overturning Section 3 of the Defense of Marriage Act. There have been some tax reform proposals to eliminate the exclusion for employer-provided health insurance, but they have not been enacted as of yet.
    We're Answering Your Questions About Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

    So it would seem (given the bolded part) that this has not happened yet.

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    This is the overwhelming proof of Obama's lack of management skills. we are told for example, "experts" are working on a fix for the computer problems people are experiencing trying to log on to the site. Is it unreasonable to ask where were the "experts" when this mess was being set up? If this were a company the top mangers would all be fired. Did they not anticipate this??!! This is the equivalent to building a billion dollar sports area and a parking lot for one thousand cars. If you were in the conference meetings held during the creation of this would you not speak up and question "why" the program is not being set up to handle an avalanche of applicants? Who gets hurt here? The politicians? Of course not.
    I've been banging that drum for a long time. Obama has never run anything and he hasn't learned anything about management in his five years as President. Incompetence permeates everything they do. Which is why they always resort to the "The President wasn't informed" defense.

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What is even more insidious here, is that from what I understand, that portion that the employer pays as compensation will start to be taxed next year, as income....So peoples taxes go up as well..Then if the employer decides that they will drop the plan for cost reasons, as has happened, I am sure that most employers will not increase their workers pay by a like amount....

    So, those workers, thanks to Obama, and the demo party will less spendable income, higher taxes, and crappier insurance. Good Job libs....I guess in liberal la la land that is counted as success.
    From what I understand, we've been told a whole lot of things about the ACA that don't happen to be true. Is it true that employers can no longer deduct the amount they spend on health care for employees? Really? That sounds so illogical, so counter productive, and so downright stupid that it sounds more like an internet rumor than a real part of the ACA. Can you cite the chapter and verse in the law that states this?
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    From what I understand, we've been told a whole lot of things about the ACA that don't happen to be true. Is it true that employers can no longer deduct the amount they spend on health care for employees? Really? That sounds so illogical, so counter productive, and so downright stupid that it sounds more like an internet rumor than a real part of the ACA. Can you cite the chapter and verse in the law that states this?
    You shouldn't bother with any whines that are based on "from what I understand". Usually such claims are based on the only thing the posters understands which is that they hate Obama and will believe anything that sounds bad about anything he's done.

    Case in point is j-mac's claim. There's nothing true about it but he believes it anyway
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You shouldn't bother with any whines that are based on "from what I understand". Usually such claims are based on the only thing the posters understands which is that they hate Obama and will believe anything that sounds bad about anything he's done.

    Case in point is j-mac's claim. There's nothing true about it but he believes it anyway
    OK, j-mac, sounds like the cards are on the table, the bets are in, what do you have?
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    OK, j-mac, sounds like the cards are on the table, the bets are in, what do you have?
    Post 232 (look above) already refuted j-macs claim
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Post 232 (look above) already refuted j-macs claim
    Looks like a full house vs. a pair of fives.
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Take the source or leave it, but here is an explanation of that:



    We're Answering Your Questions About Obamacare - Yahoo Finance

    So it would seem (given the bolded part) that this has not happened yet.
    So There have been some tax reform proposals to eliminate the exclusion for employer-provided health insurance, but they have not been enacted as of yet.


    And yet Obama care is off and crawling. Shouldn't these positions have already been clarified before it was allegedly put into place?

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So There have been some tax reform proposals to eliminate the exclusion for employer-provided health insurance, but they have not been enacted as of yet.


    And yet Obama care is off and crawling. Shouldn't these positions have already been clarified before it was allegedly put into place?
    No...
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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