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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I'm not sure when I've ever said that Congress should lay down.
    Well, earlier you started using the same arguments of the progressive left, I assumed that you wanted the same outcomes.

    Hardly. I'd be surprised if Obamacare cost more than Medicare Part D.
    "This will only come as a surprise to President Obama’s most gullible admirers: The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) now claims that the president’s signature health care legislation will cost hundreds of billions of dollars more than originally predicted. So naturally, the media are running headlines claiming ObamaCare will cost less.

    No serious policy person ever believed the original CBO gross cost projection of $938 billion (over 10 years) made when the bill was rammed through Congress in March of 2010. Working to achieve an acceptable CBO “score” (i.e., cost projection) is just part of the game Washington plays with legislation—and the American people.

    To begin with, the costs in the legislation were back-loaded: Many of the costs won’t emerge until the latter half of the initial 10-year projection, ending in 2019. And sure enough, when the CBO issued its update in March 2011 the 10-year gross cost projection through 2021 jumped to $1.44 trillion. The just-released 2012 projection tags the gross cost at $1.76 trillion through 2022—nearly twice the original cost. Surprise!"

    I'm Shocked! ObamaCare Costs More Than Promised - Forbes

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    No it doesn't. I never claimed that the medical provider is the slave. The medical provider is providing a service in exchange for compensation under terms that he agrees to voluntarily. As I said. You've lost track of the argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by FederalRepublic View Post
    I don't really think you lost track of it, because I don't think you're stupid.
    That's still the argument. It hasn't been dropped. If you have a right to health care, then someone must provide it for you.
    The slave is the one who is forced to provide a service for you.
    It's not that difficult a concept.
    I'm sorry that you can't remember from page to page, from day to day, what you posted. What is really sad is that even when your own words are presently presented, you still deny your own words.

    I hope things get better for you.

    Good luck.
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I'm sorry that you can't remember from page to page, from day to day, what you posted. What is really sad is that even when your own words are presently presented, you still deny your own words.

    I hope things get better for you.

    Good luck.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    1) She is alive isn't she?
    No, she is dead.

    2) Euthanasia has never been legal in Oregon, you're confusing it with doctor assisted suicide which has stringent rules which make it difficult to qualify.
    Doctor assisted suicide IS euthanasia.

    Not a great batting average there, chief.

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, she is dead.



    Doctor assisted suicide IS euthanasia.

    Not a great batting average there, chief.
    One point for you and one point for me.

    Assisted suicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    One point for you and one point for me.

    Assisted suicide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Assisted Suicide is without a doctor present. Euthanasia is in the presence of a doctor.

    There are several forms of Euthanasia (ie. voluntary, involuntary, non-voluntary), but doctor assisted suicide is one of those forms.

    Still 2-0.
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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Assisted Suicide is without a doctor present. Euthanasia is in the presence of a doctor. Still 2-0.
    All the Doctor does is prescribe the drugs, he is not present. The patient can choose the take the drugs at anytime. In some cases the patient never takes the drugs before dying naturally.

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    All the Doctor does is prescribe the drugs, he is not present. The patient can choose the take the drugs at anytime. In some cases the patient never takes the drugs before dying naturally.

    That isn't true. States tend not to be very amenable to letting people leave a doctor's presence carrying lethal doses of poison.

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    Re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The potential is there.

    Particularly with the dysfunctional Congress unable to fix any of it.
    Obamacare wouldn't need to be fixed if it had never been enacted.
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