Page 10 of 25 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 100 of 248

Thread: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143:248]

  1. #91
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Again, you are pretty much wrong. During the Civil War and up to WWI, men could be imprisoned. Things changed after that and until the draft ended conscientious objectors were not imprisoned. So...your example of the government forcing men to bear arms hasn't been a reality for almost 100 years.
    FFS, dude, conscription was forcing citizens to bear arms and objector status was VERY limited. Beyond that, if you objected on the field, you could be executed. Your argument is completely ignoring the vast general principle.

    The Supreme Court did nothing to establish any right to health care.
    Straw, your argument was that the forcing of medical insurance purchase (consuming) was unconstitutional. It is not.

    Quit with the wormy argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  2. #92
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    You proved me wrong??? How? By quoting the Preamble to the Constitution? That was no proof.

    I proved you wrong by presenting an explanation of what that phrase in the Preamble means...and it doesn't mean what you seem to think it does.

    If my proof is so easily refuted, the do so. Otherwise, admit you were wrong...or just slink away.
    The Preamble clearly shows that the constitution has several goals, including more than one which covers the govt getting involved in health care
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  3. #93
    Sage
    Mycroft's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,851

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The Preamble clearly shows that the constitution has several goals, including more than one which covers the govt getting involved in health care
    Please specify which goals...and provide links supporting your contention.

    After all, that's what I did.
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

  4. #94
    Sage
    Mycroft's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,851

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    FFS, dude, conscription was forcing citizens to bear arms and objector status was VERY limited. Beyond that, if you objected on the field, you could be executed. Your argument is completely ignoring the vast general principle.

    Straw, your argument was that the forcing of medical insurance purchase (consuming) was unconstitutional. It is not.

    Quit with the wormy argument.
    I never said it was unconstitutional. I said the Democrats turned the Constitution on its head by passing a law.

    Come on, dude...at least read what I say before you respond to me.
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

  5. #95
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I never said it was unconstitutional. I said the Democrats turned the Constitution on its head by passing a law.

    Come on, dude...at least read what I say before you respond to me.
    This is what you said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post

    "Forcing" has nothing to do with medical workers...but medical insurance consumers.
    Again, if you think that the constitution was turned upside down, then you are ignoring the ruling on the individual mandate.

    You are still worming....and diverting from the point....but that is what one does when they have a losing argument.

    Your debate and technique is a waste of time.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  6. #96
    Sage
    j-mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    South Carolina
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:02 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    30,274

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Oh wow, mod alert!

    Report me, go on.
    Oh brother....Need a towel?
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

    Alexis de Tocqueville

  7. #97
    Sage
    Mycroft's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:13 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    25,851

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    This is what you said:
    Again, if you think that the constitution was turned upside down, then you are ignoring the ruling on the individual mandate.

    You are still worming....and diverting from the point....but that is what one does when they have a losing argument.

    Your debate and technique is a waste of time.
    Ummm....yes...I said forcing has nothing to do with medical workers, but medical insurance consumers. Is that statement incorrect?

    And, in my opinion, the Constitution was stood on its head by the passage of the law. I said nothing about the Supreme Court's ruling. I said nothing about whether the law has been deemed constitutional.

    Look...I get so many liberals...and some non-liberals...who respond to me based on something I didn't say. Please don't be one of them.
    TANSTAAFL

    “An armed society is a polite society.”
    ― Robert A. Heinlein, Beyond This Horizon

  8. #98
    Guru

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    09-24-17 @ 04:35 PM
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    2,942

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Are you talking about taxation...or conscripting medical workers?
    You can never have a right to a service that someone else provides, unless the providers of the service are slaves. Are you advocating slavery?

  9. #99
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Please specify which goals...and provide links supporting your contention.

    After all, that's what I did.
    I've already posted the Preamble
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

  10. #100
    Sage
    sangha's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Lower Hudson Valley, NY
    Last Seen
    09-17-17 @ 05:48 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    59,990

    re: Insurers reportedly receiving faulty data from ObamaCare exchanges [W:143]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I never said it was unconstitutional. I said the Democrats turned the Constitution on its head by passing a law.
    Because the constitution says nothing about passing laws!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

Page 10 of 25 FirstFirst ... 8910111220 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •