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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    With only 30 billion left on hand in the treasurary, I have high doubts we could have prevented a default
    again....... the u.s government brings in about 10x more.......what our debt payment is ,how could we have defaulted.


    people were scaring people with this nonsense of defaulting.

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I think the Republicans are smarter than that..... they don't want to have this happen again, even closer to the election. They played out the hand and lost. The Obama care debate is now substantially behind us.
    I think this has settled the Obamacare debate as much as Roe Vs. Wade settled abortion. 26 states have refused Federal funding for the program, which in a perverse sort of way may not be that bad: perhaps if the debate continues to thrive we can actually get universal health care out of the deal.

    Hey, I don't have to be a miserable cynic all the time.

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    again....... the u.s government brings in about 10x more.......what our debt payment is ,how could we have defaulted.


    people were scaring people with this nonsense of defaulting.
    with interest payments of 420 billion and an income or revenue of 2.7 trillion or there about, I feel the same way. But I am happy it is over with.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Kindly produce a reference from a credible economist that agrees with this position, as it is generally regarded as a position held by the ill-informed. You believing it to be true does not make it true. If you can't produce such a reference then, if you are smart, you too will no longer believe it to be true.
    excuse me..you dont seem to understand.........are you incapable of finding how much revenue the u.s. government took in for 2013..its 2.7 trillion.......divide by 12..gives you an average.

    our debt payment is about 25 billion a month, since revenue average a month is about 10x higher than the payment..... how do you default?......the debt must be paid by law, and since revenue is still flowing into Washington, president must pay....by executing the law

    is that to hard?
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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How would World markets have reacted on Friday without a deal??
    We actually scared the sh!t out of them..As we'll be played again in Jan..Which bills are you not paying??
    Do you really think Obama wouldn't have used Constitutional Authority, prompting articles, which is still to on the House's agenda ?
    yeah, the markets were freaked... by news of an impending default.

    the administration has been screaming default since day 1... and people bought it and were scared by the idea of defaulting.
    the thing is, we weren't at risk for defaulting unless we defaulted on purpose.
    the treasury brings in 10 times the money needed to service our debts....that is just fact... our bills were gonna get paid no matter what happened to the debt ceiling or if the government shutdown continued or not.

    Moodys, the rating agency came right out and said it... we were simply not at risk of defaulting on our debts, period.


    we'll be revisiting this whole cluster**** again in Jan, sure.. Feb 7th is the next DOOMSDAY!! ( the day we will be lied to about, again.)

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    I find it interesting the entire Nebraska delegation voted for it. Deb Fischer and the three representatives seem like the type to vote it down. None of the farm states surrounding it had many of their Senators and Representatives voting for it. Just strikes me as odd, probably a coincidence.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    with interest payments of 420 billion and an income or revenue of 2.7 trillion or there about, I feel the same way. But I am happy it is over with.

    i rounded it off before , its about 220 billion a year

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Thank god. The health care debate is finally done forever.
    Wishful thinking. First it has to work. Which it won't.

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I think this has settled the Obamacare debate as much as Roe Vs. Wade settled abortion. 26 states have refused Federal funding for the program, which in a perverse sort of way may not be that bad: perhaps if the debate continues to thrive we can actually get universal health care out of the deal.

    Hey, I don't have to be a miserable cynic all the time.
    I wouldn't be too sure. i just checked RCP and their average for 6 polls on the ACA is 48% against 38% in favor. I think if the Republicans hadn't been so stupid and needlessly shut down government they would have picked up WV, MT, SD, LA, AR, and AK in next year senate races by running against the ACA in those states now held by Democrats. Now I am not so sure, I think the Republicans really hurt their chances there. But time will tell.

    I do think the fate of the ACA now lies in the hands of those who already had insurance. IF they think they get a better deal, you're right, stick a nail in it. But if they think they have been hosed, this fight could continue on to 2016 especially if the Republicans make gains in the senate next year.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: House approves bill to end shutdown

    Well, hopefully the Libertarian party will grow in Congress with these next elections. The shutdown was just one more example of another "Great Awakening" with the American people.



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