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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    You're right, she's a chicken-hawk just like the Repubs before her.
    chicken-hawk = a political tem used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who ACTIVELY AVOIDED military service of age..
    With just the 21st Century in mind, we could look at the last decade with Bush/Cheney, versus Rumsfeld and Powell who served.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    yep, hillary is running
    already has much of the machinery in place

    that swipe at biden was a clear giveaway. shows she is running and remains a ****
    biden was the one who announced after the capture of osama that he had counseled against the raid

    wonder who is going to start revealing insider stories about her incompetencies as secstate

    2016 is the republicans' to lose if the demos are stupid enough to run hillary
    will be the same outcome as kerry, gore and dukakis

    IF the GOP can find a decent centrist candidate. hint: cruz ain't it. he would be a gift to the hillary ticket


    who has a better shot than christie?
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    chicken-hawk = a political tem used in the United States to describe a person who strongly supports war or other military action (i.e., a War Hawk), yet who ACTIVELY AVOIDED military service of age..
    With just the 21st Century in mind, we could look at the last decade with Bush/Cheney, versus Rumsfeld and Powell who served.
    I believe the definition is considered too narrow these days. Refers instead to those never involved actively on the field, but being war mongers.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Of course hillary is running as of now. A person that driven doesn't go away simply because they got bested because Obama was black. The whole coy about running thing makes sense, but gets pretty annoying after a while. It keeps her name in the news, and if she was really retiring because she was tired she would be off resting. She is older though, and three years from now she might not be able to run anymore. There is no doubt today she took off from her position in Obamaland so she could snipe and not get tainted by his last years.

    If the elections were today she would be president. There is no dem with her popularity, and republicans are in the ****ter. The only republican who has universal appeal outside of the nutbar states is christie and he would never make the primaries. There is a chance the reps will hear the wake up call and cut the tea party loose so they can maybe ruide a wave of anti-dem hate in 2016 but I see them continuing to remind america just how incompetent and stupid they really are. If they run a tea party baby like cruz that would be the end of their hopes. Who knows, someone reasonable might come along, it could be a complete disaster for the dems if they get the house in 2014, and the tea party members of the right might all miraculously grow a brain ans STFU. Then she would have a problem. I just do not think she has much to worry about with republicans, just with her own health and perhaps someone coming up in her own party in the next year or two. She does not need to snipe at Biden that much, just remind everyone he is a VP for a reason, and that is because no one wants him as president.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    From what I have gathered in my reading, most Democrats do want to see Hillary Clinton run for president. Obama was about the first "black" president and no one can convince me he was ever vetted for the job. He won for the most part for his skin color and many were willing to vote for him for that reason alone. And Hillary will be the candidate that will work the masses in the same way only using gender this time. The Democrat party can not run on achievements for all their big ideas since FDR forward have proved to be total failures. Most of their policies were sold as "feel good" ideas to the masses with a minimum cost but as decades have shown, all have grown into these huge behemoth agencies that are always looking for more funding to sustain them. Which usually means tax the successful at a greater rate to pay for all the needed revenue to keep propping up failed policies. The reason for this is Democrats are always wanting to increase the benefits from their initial scope of what these programs were sold to the people. And at the same time the more they can "addict" those to government entitlements, they increase the loyalty to their party. The problem....we are running a trillion over what we take in each year and that turns into debt. It has to stop....yesterday.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I believe the definition is considered to narrow these days. Refers instead to those never involved actively on the field, but being war mongers.
    Which isn't exactly something that applies to Hillary Clinton because there wasn't really much of an option for her to have seen combat
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    who has a better shot than christie?
    Christie has a shot, but the reps won't put him on the ticket. They see mittens as a failure because he was too centrist, and the reality is he got as many votes as he did because he was a centrist. They do not want to run another middle of the road candidate. they want to run a cruz. He is the hero of the wackydoodle haolf of the republican party. Christie will never make it with the wackydoodle half of the republican party, and the moderate parts have been whittled down into a minority. In order for christie to capture enough of the wackydoodles he would have to offend the moderates.

    Things could change and the reps could regain control of their party from the wacky right without shedding their votes, but they are going to actually have to start doing that soon. It is sure as hell going to be big problems for them if the dems runs someone like hillary. If you have not learned you cannot rely on hate to win you an election when you run crappy candidates. It was a lesson learned by Kerry, McCain, and Romnifeller who all based their campaigns on the idea of hate of their opponent. You have to have something to run on. Obama ran his campaign on change and being the first black president. those were positive things to run on and they gave a reason for people to vote for him. If the reps run against hillary on we hate hillary and put a dumbass in as a sure thing hillary will eat them alive.

    It really all depends on republicans learning something from the past 8 years, and they keep on rejecting any lessons.

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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    From what I have gathered in my reading, most Democrats do want to see Hillary Clinton run for president. Obama was about the first "black" president and no one can convince me he was ever vetted for the job. He won for the most part for his skin color and many were willing to vote for him for that reason alone. And Hillary will be the candidate that will work the masses in the same way only using gender this time. The Democrat party can not run on achievements for all their big ideas since FDR forward have proved to be total failures. Most of their policies were sold as "feel good" ideas to the masses with a minimum cost but as decades have shown, all have grown into these huge behemoth agencies that are always looking for more funding to sustain them. Which usually means tax the successful at a greater rate to pay for all the needed revenue to keep propping up failed policies. The reason for this is Democrats are always wanting to increase the benefits from their initial scope of what these programs were sold to the people. And at the same time the more they can "addict" those to government entitlements, they increase the loyalty to their party. The problem....we are running a trillion over what we take in each year and that turns into debt. It has to stop....yesterday.
    Horse****. The voting trends did not substantially differ from the norm. An uptick of Democrat voter turnout is probably best attributed to the disastrous Bush presidency. People in 2008 were fed up with Republicans.
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    Re: Did Hillary Clinton tip her hand on 2016 presidential run?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Which isn't exactly something that applies to Hillary Clinton because there wasn't really much of an option for her to have seen combat
    I don't think an opening to be able to serve in the field or otherwise is a requirement. Simply those that have no idea the realities of wars, warmongering, regardless of the reason for the ignorance.
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