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    Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default - CNN.com

    Senate leaders on Wednesday worked out a deal to reopen the government and avoid a potential U.S. default as soon as midnight, sources told CNN's Dana Bash and Ted Barrett.

    Exact details of the Senate plan were not known. Nor was it clear how the Senate and House would proceed in considering the measure.
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    It also would set up budget negotiations between the House and Senate for a long-term spending plan, and would include a provision to strengthen verification measures for people seeking government subsidies under Obama's signature health care reforms.
    Which, I have to confess, I don't actually understand at all. But on the face of it I'm guessing it means poor people have more hoops to jump through. Shocker.

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    the world breathes a huge sigh of releif.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

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    Which, I have to confess, I don't actually understand at all. But on the face of it I'm guessing it means poor people have more hoops to jump through. Shocker.
    Doesn't it still have to pass the House?

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Doesn't it still have to pass the House?
    Yup.

    If the Senate passes an agreement, House Speaker John Boehner will probably face the decision of whether to allow a vote that he knows can only pass with virtually all Democrats and only a few of his fellow Republicans supporting it.

    .......

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

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    Which, I have to confess, I don't actually understand at all. But on the face of it I'm guessing it means poor people have more hoops to jump through. Shocker.
    Hopefully Boehner allows a vote on it.

    The last part is completely ridiculous though. The party who fears IRS involvement the most mandates that everyone be essentially audited.

    Regardless, this can't happen ever again. The Democrats should support Boehner for speaker as long as the GOP has a numerical advantage. The Tea Party can't be allowed to have any influence. They've demonstrated that their only interest in government is in destroying it.

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    This can be verified by Slate: Shutdown Live-Blog: Day 16
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Hopefully Boehner allows a vote on it.

    The last part is completely ridiculous though. The party who fears IRS involvement the most mandates that everyone be essentially audited.

    Regardless, this can't happen ever again. The Democrats should support Boehner for speaker as long as the GOP has a numerical advantage. The Tea Party can't be allowed to have any influence. They've demonstrated that their only interest in government is in destroying it.
    Well, now we know what happens when the loony tune inmates are allowed to run the GOP asylum.

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    It is a very short term deal. However, the Republicans were asking to discuss some policies. The Democrats were saying they would only discuss them after funding the government. Well, the government will be funded for a few months...deal away. Hopefully they do work this time.
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This can be verified by Slate: Shutdown Live-Blog: Day 16
    From there it says that it looks like it will make it to the house floor for a vote. Also this:

    Officials said the proposal called for the Treasury to have authority to continue borrowing through Feb. 7, and the government would reopen through Jan. 15. ... In addition to raising the debt limit, the proposal would give lawmakers a vote to disapprove the increase. President Barack Obama would have the right to veto their opposition, ensuring he would prevail.
    House and Senate negotiators would be appointed to seek a deficit-reduction deal, but there is no provision for federal agencies to have increased flexibility in coping with the effects of across-the-board cuts.
    Despite initial Republican demands for the defunding of the health care law known as Obamacare, the pending agreement makes only one modest change in the program. It requires individuals and families seeking subsidies to purchase coverage to verify their incomes before qualifying.
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Hopefully Boehner allows a vote on it.

    The last part is completely ridiculous though. The party who fears IRS involvement the most mandates that everyone be essentially audited.

    Regardless, this can't happen ever again. The Democrats should support Boehner for speaker as long as the GOP has a numerical advantage. The Tea Party can't be allowed to have any influence. They've demonstrated that their only interest in government is in destroying it.
    does anyone remember why we needed to shutdown the government in the first place?

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