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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

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    no. You accused someone of lying and making **** up when, in fact, they were factually correct, and your reply was a different measurement than the one they had measured. You can complain about the stat if you like (it is hardly meaningless), but that is not the same as arguing that the specifics presented are not only incorrect, but are deliberately falsified. The major problem here is not even that you were wrong, but that you are so quick to declare that your opposition, by virtue of being your opposition, must be lying. This is simply a rather blatant incident because you were So Very Demonstrably Wrong, and your opposition was So Easily Proven Correct. Either you didn't know what you were talking about, or didn't bother to read thoroughly, and either way, didn't let that stop you from leaping immediately to cast aspersions on others.
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    The cost of the government shutdown was a whopping 24 billion. How can they even pretend to whine about the deficit now, especially with the egg all over their faces?
    Let me get this straight, you have a problem with a 24 billion cost and not the 17 trillion dollar debt? You apparently weren't concerned about the 14.7 trillion dollar debt in 2011 that you approved of the increase? Now tell me how much the President cares about the deficit and debt when he proposes a 3.77 trillion dollar budget?

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    The cost of the government shutdown was a whopping 24 billion. How can they even pretend to whine about the deficit now, especially with the egg all over their faces?
    Do you have any idea how long it takes for the US Government to add $24 billion to their debt? Or the last time a budget passed? Or when the next spending crisis will hit?

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Hey, congratulations, you got a three month extension, kick the can down the road which is what you seem to support. Doesn't matter that the 2011 debt ceiling debate was so successful that we still don't have a budget, and we have almost 17 trillion in debt instead of 14.7 when the last debt ceiling was raised. Congratulations, Liberals, you are getting that entitlement utopia that you all want.
    Spending levels that the GOP insisted on back in July, but ok. Lay it all on Democrats.

    and if you think I support doing this same **** again in three months, you're delusional.
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Spending levels that the GOP insisted on back in July, but ok. Lay it all on Democrats.

    and if you think I support doing this same **** again in three months, you're delusional.
    But that's just whats going to happen, as it does every three months.

    What can you expect from a president with no administrative experience, business experience or real political experience. It's not Barrack Obama's fault he became President, he probably never thought he had a chance and just wanted to get his name out there, like the recently invisible Joe Biden does every election cycle.

    His spotty record was known, but what about the people who elected him? What if they elect another Barrack Obama type next time round?

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you have any idea how long it takes for the US Government to add $24 billion to their debt? Or the last time a budget passed? Or when the next spending crisis will hit?

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    Heck, what's another 24 billion, eh? It's so much more fun to go after the chump change savings going after the welfare bums!11!!1!!!!
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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    And so it continues yet again....

    Today we'll borrow gobs more money, not to pay down the debt, but to pay the interest on the interest on the interest of the debt.

    Borrowing money we couldn't pay back in a million years.

    Default is merely a matter of time. The music is going to stop pretty soon.

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Spending levels that the GOP insisted on back in July, but ok. Lay it all on Democrats.

    and if you think I support doing this same **** again in three months, you're delusional.
    The sequester was slowing the growth of spending not any cuts and yes, the GOP didn't demand enough but look what happened when they did. If you don't support the same old crap then why do you support what Obama is doing?

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you have any idea how long it takes for the US Government to add $24 billion to their debt? Or the last time a budget passed? Or when the next spending crisis will hit?
    The shutdown will end up costing the American taxpayer (every citizen at that) $24 billion in economic activity, and about $5.4 billion in tax revenue.

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    Re: Senate reaches deal to end shutdown, avoid default

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    And so it continues yet again....

    Today we'll borrow gobs more money, not to pay down the debt, but to pay the interest on the interest on the interest of the debt.

    Borrowing money we couldn't pay back in a million years.

    Default is merely a matter of time. The music is going to stop pretty soon.
    Come on, this is just too easy!

    The level of debt is of no consequence; it's really a matter of output! For example, in 1947, debt to output was roughly 120% - 140% depending on if you use GNP or GDP. At that time, it was roughly $290 billion in federal debt, relative to $260 billion in output.

    If someone in 1947 said we would never be able to pay off that in 100 years, they would be wrong. The U.S. pays roughly $420 billion in interest payments annually. In 66 years, who knows what the level of the public debt will be. We do know that the interest payments will be somewhere in area of $17 trillion
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    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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