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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread - Bloomberg

    wasn't Obama care supposed to keep the uninsured from flocking to the emergency rooms for any little illness?
    Now it will be the insured and uninsured doing just that because they cant afford the deductibles and co-pay
    so there goes another liberal talking point down the drain
    Wait, you mean that the law's been in effect for 2 weeks, during which time the government is shut down, and it hasn't had an effect yet?


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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Sweet tap-dancing Jesus, this was only three paragraphs in, people!



    This was happening before Obamacare was even a thing!

    and you want to scold others for not reading when you don't even read what you quoted
    The practice of upfront payment for non-emergency care has been spreading in the U.S. as deductibles rise. Now, the advent of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is likely to accelerate that trend.

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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I agree it is sound business practice to do just that. my point of the post was to show the liberals that Obama care will not solve the problem of people going to the emergency room for the common cold
    This may be true, unless the system will require that a person's healthcare plan is registered somewhere accessible by hospitals who will then be able to charge people against their policies rather than as people without policies.

    From what I understand, and correct me if I'm wrong, those most in need will become part of the medicaid system paid for out of "tax penalties" paid by those who don't buy insurance and "savings" to the medicaid/medicare systems currently in place. Clearly, if that is the case, those people will not be paying large deductibles and hospitals are more likely to get paid for services. It doesn't address, however, those who are able to pay for insurance but refuse to buy it and then go to ERs for "free" services.
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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Since Obamacare doesn't start till Jan 2014 it can't be the fault of the ACA or Obama.
    Uh, so the President lied when he said:

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    Q: Mr. President, thank you. Max Baucus, Democratic senator, referred to the implementation of your health-care as a potential train wreck...And why do you believe he's wrong?

    PRESIDENT OBAMA: …The Affordable Care Act, "Obamacare," has now been with us for three years...A huge chunk of it's already been implemented…And for the 85 to 90 percent of Americans…they're already experiencing most of the benefits of the Affordable Care Act even if they don't know it. Their insurance is more secure. Insurance companies can't drop them for bad reasons. Their kids are able to stay on their health insurance until they're 26 years old. They're getting free preventive care.

    …But I think the main message I want to give to the American people here is despite all the hue and cry and, you know, sky-is- falling predictions about this stuff, if you've already got health insurance, then that part of "Obamacare" that affects you, it's pretty much already in place. And that's about 85 percent of the country.
    President Obama’s April 30, 2013, news conference (TRANSCRIPT) - The Washington Post

    Or perhaps it was YOU who is lying...

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    It's a sad state of affairs that a post like this can actually be the post of reason.
    a lie is a 'post of reason'...?
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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Wait, you mean that the law's been in effect for 2 weeks, during which time the government is shut down, and it hasn't had an effect yet?
    do you wait for the last bite of a crap sandwich before you realize it taste like crap

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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    I agree it is sound business practice to do just that. my point of the post was to show the liberals that Obama care will not solve the problem of people going to the emergency room for the common cold
    Why won't it stop them? Would you rather pay $30 up front or $1,500?

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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Wait, you mean that the law's been in effect for 2 weeks, during which time the government is shut down, and it hasn't had an effect yet?
    Are you really not paying attention? The only thing that happened two weeks ago was the opening of the exchanges...where folks can purchase insurance from PRIVATE insurance companies...that doesn't provide coverage until Jan 1...

    But per the President the ACA has been 'active' for three years...
    "The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure" - 2006 Senator Obama...leadership failure indeed!

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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Why won't it stop them? Would you rather pay $30 up front or $1,500?
    or pay $0 up front at the emergency room?

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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    do you wait for the last bite of a crap sandwich before you realize it taste like crap
    We haven't even had the first bite yet.

    Life is like a **** sandwich - the more bread you've got, the less **** you have to eat.


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    Re: Patients Pay Before Seeing Doctor as Deductibles Spread

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    or pay $0 up front at the emergency room?
    Your link says the trend is spreading to ERs. What the HELL am I missing??

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