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Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede[W:236]

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Hyperbole much? They could have imposed a $300 limit per card. Starve to DEATH.... :roll:

Right? Like walmart has any qualms about turning people away any other day
 
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Right? Like walmart has any qualms about turning people away any other day

I don't know if they turn people away.
 
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I don't know if they turn people away.

go in there and try to buy some groceries without any cash. I guarantee you you don't walk out with anything
 
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if that was the case, people wouldn't be constantly converting their EBT card into cash by selling the food they buy with it.

First of all, show me this happens "constantly." If you can do that, answer me this: without demand, there's no supply, right? And what would the demand be for here?
 
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go in there and try to buy some groceries without any cash. I guarantee you you don't walk out with anything

That is what is nice about living in a village. You can forget your wallet and take the stuff home anyway.
 
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Legal definitions trump your personal opinion. This wasn't taken by force, unlawfully, or embezzled. It was taken with the full consent of Wal-Mart and its employees. I don't understand what is worse. That you can't define what kind of theft this was or that you can't place blame where blame is due. If a company makes a mistake and customers take full advantage of it, it's not theft. For example, I have gone to the store and decided to purchase an item. When it was rung through, the pricing on the shelf was different than that which was shown. When that mistake is made most stores have a policy of honoring the price on the shelf EVEN if it is a mistake. That's not theft.

In this case, Wal-Mart ignored the EBT limits. That's not the customer's problem. It's Wal-Mart's.

You can pull out your law dictionary all you want, I'll stick with the simple advice that my mother gave me as a small child. "If it doesn't belong to you, don't touch it"

But in any case it fits the definition. Those people knew that it was a glitch, there are reports that the the info went viral and people intentionally and knowingly took (with the cooperation of the Walmart corporate office) what they were not entitled to.

This was a theft. Not of the products that filled the baskets of greedy immoral people, but of tax dollars. Walmart and the accomplices fraudulently conspired to take tax payer dollars without consent (They knew they were not entitled to the amount), converting tax dollars to their use for profit and personal consumption.

It is not enough to have gained "consent", that consent must come from that rightful owner. If the neighbor to your left gives you permission to take the tool box out of the garage of the neighbor on the right; will you be surprised to find that you are a thief? No, it is self evident that the wrong party gave consent.
 
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No it was part and parcel of why this story was posted here in the first place.

I think you just did it again. I saw no mention of race in the discussion until you brought it up. If you can read the mind of the original poster, then your ESP is superior to mine. Aren't you one who complains that people infer things that you did not say? Seems unfortunate that you are doing that to others.
 
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Just a little story: I have a co-worker who is Hispanic. Who won his citizenship under Reagan amnesty. He lives in a largely Hispanic middle class neighborhood, and has friends and neighbors "all" of which he claims use ebt cards (they might be called snap here). He knows his community as a whole applies for assistance under false pretenses. He refuses to drink his friend's beer when offered because his friend's family receives food stamps while making better than 50K, per year in construction. This is not the exception in that Hispanic community, fraud is rampant.



I will agree EBT is frequent in the Hispanic community, however it's not fraud. Realistically most Hispanic males do work construction or other type of those jobs but probably make no more than $17/hr, which would equal more or less $33,000.00/yr. No way are most of them they making $26/hr or roughly more than $50,000.00 a year even in construction, that is a very rare exception. And most of the time the mother is a stay at home mom. Then taking it at the 133% fpl eligibility in most states and on average Hispanic families have about 3-4 children and a retired parent or two living with them and they more than qualify. You know a co-worker, I live it.
 
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do you find it ironic that you're using this argument to remove responsibility from walmart?

jesus, talk about your corporate fellating

Is it ok to steal someone's belongings, just because they left theor house unkocked?

Did youvread far enough into the thread to see where I didn't let wal mart off the hooj, the way you're excusing fraudulent behavior by peopke who are already getting free ****?

Walmart is damned, either way, while you people give a free pass, at the most lip service, to the welfare classers that participated in this embaressibg behavior.
 
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First of all, show me this happens "constantly."

go hang out in front of any ghetto grocery store around the first of the month. Not my problem you live some sheltered and naive existence, and it certainly doesn't serve as some type of proof here


If you can do that, answer me this: without demand, there's no supply, right? And what would the demand be for here?

People buying food at an extreme discount? Not sure why you would assume only "hungry" people would look to save money.
 
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Yes.


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And you would have been ok when a riot broje out and someone got hurt, or killed? Don't lie...you would have condemned walnart for that too
 
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I think you just did it again. I saw no mention of race in the discussion until you brought it up. If you can read the mind of the original poster, then your ESP is superior to mine. Aren't you one who complains that people infer things that you did not say? Seems unfortunate that you are doing that to others.

It's because the racist Libbos assune it was just black folks involved.
 
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Is it ok to steal someone's belongings, just because they left theor house unkocked?

How does that strike you as an apt analogy when walmart a)knew there was an issue with the system and b) allowed these purchases to go through anyway? Honestly, what type of totally inept attempt at logic is this?

Did youvread far enough into the thread to see where I didn't let wal mart off the hooj

No, I saw you post numerous times in a manner that made them sound as victims, as you just did above ...

the way you're excusing fraudulent behavior by peopke who are already getting free ****?

You mean the people who I have called for being prosecuted for welfare fraud? Maybe next time you can try to stumble through this while making some sense

Walmart is damned, either way

lol, no, numerous other stores did the exact opposite of what walmart did

while you people give a free pass, at the most lip service, to the welfare classers that participated in this embaressibg behavior.

dude, you just cast walmart as some victim here, as opposed to an entity who was trying to swindle the govt, as well. Me, I'm consistent. I think the welfare moops and walmart are guilty. it's not my fault that you and others are so partisan that you feel a need to excuse one side or another
 
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And you would have been ok when a riot broje out and someone got hurt, or killed?

other stores did exactly that and no riot ensued. And if one did ensue, that's why we have things like police, k-9 units and fire hoses


Don't lie...you would have condemned walnart for that too

unlike you, mate, I can entertain complex ideas and reason out both sides are at fault. So don't project your intellectual failings on me
 
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go hang out in front of any ghetto grocery store around the first of the month. Not my problem you live some sheltered and naive existence, and it certainly doesn't serve as some type of proof here


People buying food at an extreme discount? Not sure why you would assume only "hungry" people would look to save money.


I've been approached more than a couple times to buy $100.00 worth of groceries for $50.00. In my experience, people will exchange food stamps for pretty much anything and do.
 
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lol, it's like most of you people have no connection to reality
 
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I will agree EBT is frequent in the Hispanic community, however it's not fraud. Realistically most Hispanic males do work construction or other type of those jobs but probably make no more than $17/hr, which would equal more or less $33,000.00/yr. No way are most of them they making $26/hr or roughly more than $50,000.00 a year even in construction, that is a very rare exception. And most of the time the mother is a stay at home mom. Then taking it at the 133% fpl eligibility in most states and on average Hispanic families have about 3-4 children and a retired parent or two living with them and they more than qualify. You know a co-worker, I live it.

This is a middle class neighborhood. The kids are well dressed, new trucks and suv's line the streets. And the many of the men are not just hourly labor, they are contractors too. In addition, I personally know Hispanic landscape workers that make better than 50K (and they earn every penny). Many in the trades work a lot of overtime. Usually, it is the wife that applies hiding marital status and understating income. I also can attest to knowledge of a two income familiy, with a combined income of 110K, who freely admits and laughs about using food stamps fraudulently. "Everyone does it" is what she said.

On another note, $33,000 is modest in today's economy, but one can buy their own food and shelter on that in most areas of the country.
 
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How does that strike you as an apt analogy when walmart a)knew there was an issue with the system and b) allowed these purchases to go through anyway? Honestly, what type of totally inept attempt at logic is this?



No, I saw you post numerous times in a manner that made them sound as victims, as you just did above ...



You mean the people who I have called for being prosecuted for welfare fraud? Maybe next time you can try to stumble through this while making some sense



lol, no, numerous other stores did the exact opposite of what walmart did



dude, you just cast walmart as some victim here, as opposed to an entity who was trying to swindle the govt, as well. Me, I'm consistent. I think the welfare moops and walmart are guilty. it's not my fault that you and others are so partisan that you feel a need to excuse one side or another

Dont lie. You inow damn good and well you would condemn walmart, either way.
 
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I've been approached more than a couple times to buy $100.00 worth of groceries for $50.00. In my experience, people will exchange food stamps for pretty much anything and do.

hell, you'll find people setting up shop right in front of the grocery store selling stuff like steaks, and some smaller markets will directly trade cash
 
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Dont lie. You inow damn good and well you would condemn walmart, either way.

1) why would I feel a need to lie to you? I don't care what you think

2) You can find numerous posts in this very thread where I clearly blame the moops and walmart. So if you could manage some higher brain function for a moment, you could tease out that your premise makes no sense

3) stop assuming people are like you and can't look at things honestly and with intelligence
 
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other stores did exactly that and no riot ensued. And if one did ensue, that's why we have things like police, k-9 units and fire hoses




unlike you, mate, I can entertain complex ideas and reason out both sides are at fault. So don't project your intellectual failings on me

Which ones?
 
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