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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    How did WalMart know they had limits? Was there any indication of this? As I understand it, the limits apparently vanished @ 7 and returned at 9.

    I would say that WalMart holds some responsibility for this, but that the people who knowingly abused a glitch in an electronic system are mostly responsible.

    I mean...they HAD to know that the Gov hadn't just suddenly decided "**** it, let em buy as much as they want". Right? Or am I off track here.
    WalMart knows how the EBT system works. Everyone has limits on EBT. No exceptions. So yes, they knew there was something wrong with the situation and should not have allowed it to go on.

    Heck, I'm normally a defender of WalMart because I actually like the place. But in this case, this was mainly their fault. They should have did what pretty much every other food store in the country did, either not allow EBT purchases until they verified the system was fixed or set up the limit of $50 that seems to be the standard (and a pretty reasonable amount). Instead, they chose something that caused a lot of purchases to be made that should not have been allowed. They probably figure that the food stamps program will pay them and the government won't hold them responsible.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    WalMart knows how the EBT system works. Everyone has limits on EBT. No exceptions. So yes, they knew there was something wrong with the situation and should not have allowed it to go on.

    Heck, I'm normally a defender of WalMart because I actually like the place. But in this case, this was mainly their fault. They should have did what pretty much every other food store in the country did, either not allow EBT purchases until they verified the system was fixed or set up the limit of $50 that seems to be the standard (and a pretty reasonable amount). Instead, they chose something that caused a lot of purchases to be made that should not have been allowed. They probably figure that the food stamps program will pay them and the government won't hold them responsible.
    As I said, they're not blameless, by any means.

    But neither are the people who went nuts purchasing stuff. They, also, know that EBT has limits. But they abused Wal-Mart's mistake anyway.

    Oddly, this has reminded me that I passed a large pickup apparently belonging to Halliburton (or so the decals on the doors and tailgate said) on the way to work today. Not sure why it reminded me.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Well, if the bank makes an error saying you have more money than you do, and you manage to spend the overage - you're on the hook. If the IRS sends you a larger return than you are entitled to - you're on the hook.

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, if the bank makes an error saying you have more money than you do, and you manage to spend the overage - you're on the hook. If the IRS sends you a larger return than you are entitled to - you're on the hook.
    But these are poor people. We CAN'T make them stay on the hook. That's just....mean.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But these are poor people. We CAN'T make them stay on the hook. That's just....mean.
    Poor people experience bank and IRS errors in their favor too. Doesn't matter. What they did was a crime, albeit low level, but still theft. Hope they bought plenty of food with a long shelf life because they're not getting more money until they've paid back the unintended loan.

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Poor people experience bank and IRS errors in their favor too. Doesn't matter. What they did was a crime, albeit low level, but still theft. Hope they bought plenty of food with a long shelf life because they're not getting more money until they've paid back the unintended loan.
    I think it depends on whether the EBT $50 emergency recommendation is a recommendation or a requirement. If the latter, then Walmart is clearly at most fault for not following the rules they should've known existed, and by one Walmart associate's telling of it here, some Walmart's do know the rule, and thereby willfully allowing the over-spending. If it is just a recommendation, then the blame and responsibility should be shared equally. 50% for each individual/family and 50% to Walmart.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    As I said, they're not blameless, by any means.

    But neither are the people who went nuts purchasing stuff. They, also, know that EBT has limits. But they abused Wal-Mart's mistake anyway.

    Oddly, this has reminded me that I passed a large pickup apparently belonging to Halliburton (or so the decals on the doors and tailgate said) on the way to work today. Not sure why it reminded me.
    I didn't say that the people didn't hold some blame. I simply think that the difference between what was spent and what the balances were should be made up for by WalMart, not the people nor the taxpayers. The people on food stamps who went over their limits should still show $0 balance in their accounts because they knew they shouldn't have did this.

    I see the people as figuring that if WalMart is allowing it, why shouldn't they take advantage. It's not right, but it also goes to the fact that food stamps don't pay for all the groceries for most of these families. So if they have an opportunity to get more from what they normally get, they will take advantage of it.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    This depends on how WalMart handles it. If they take responsibility for it and agree to cover the difference between what was spent by how much the limits were, then they deserve "credit". However, if they say "we're not paying, it is the taxpayers' responsibility", then they deserve "blame".
    Maybe Obama will pay for it....from his stash.

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    They should say "you're all deadbeat loosers who leach off the systom so were not accepting ebt anymore".
    Except then Walmart would go out of business. Which would be fine with me. Just makin' a point.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Except then Walmart would go out of business. Which would be fine with me. Just makin' a point.
    Well as I said we should just shut the whole thing down and exicute the rioters. Its a win/win.

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