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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If a bank knowingly allows you to coomit fraud through their banking system, they are also culpable. This is akin to what happened here.



    Walmart is the entity that authorized the purchases when they were within full knowledge that the system was not properly working. That is directly aiding the criminal activity here.

    I'm sorry you can't see that and have no concept of personal responsibility. But hey, at least you get to claim one online ...

    LOL~!!!!
    You're totally right.
    The system went down in two(?) states. Every single store but one handled the situation properly. It's pretty clear whose fault that was.

    What's the alternative? Do we want the government to pay Walmart for it's mistake?

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    You're totally right.
    The system went down in two(?) states. Every single store but one handled the situation properly. It's pretty clear whose fault that was.

    What's the alternative? Do we want the government to pay Walmart for it's mistake?
    Actually it was at least 17 states. I know there was problems with it here in San Diego, due to the signs at some of the stores I frequently shop at.

    Shoppers Report EBT System Down in California and Other States | KTLA 5
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not if WalMart doesn't fight it.

    And if they do, I'm willing to bet that the court will easily side with the government and Xerox against WalMart since they can show they have a policy for such things in place/set up, that the rest of the retailers around the nation used, including most other WalMarts.
    Yet nobody has provided the text of the written policy yet...

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yet nobody has provided the text of the written policy yet...
    Because that isn't exactly something that is quickly found online. However, since 99% of the other stores in the country followed this policy without needing to be told or having the problems these 2 WalMart stores had, I'm willing to bet on the policy being as reported. You are free to believe otherwise, but you are simply denying evidence.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually it was at least 17 states. I know there was problems with it here in San Diego, due to the signs at some of the stores I frequently shop at.

    Shoppers Report EBT System Down in California and Other States | KTLA 5
    Funny thing is, it wasn't just the two Walmart stores that did such things. But... Walmart is every liberal media pundits punching bag...

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not if WalMart doesn't fight it.

    And if they do, I'm willing to bet that the court will easily side with the government and Xerox against WalMart since they can show they have a policy for such things in place/set up, that the rest of the retailers around the nation used, including most other WalMarts.
    Not to mention a clear knowledge that the system was not working properly

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because that isn't exactly something that is quickly found online. However, since 99% of the other stores in the country followed this policy without needing to be told or having the problems these 2 WalMart stores had, I'm willing to bet on the policy being as reported. You are free to believe otherwise, but you are simply denying evidence.
    99%?

    Are you making that up, or do you have evidence?

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Not to mention a clear knowledge that the system was not working properly
    Still, I'll bet in the fine print of the contracts, Walmart will be compensated. Call it a gut feeling if you like, but they system did allow the transactions...

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Still, I'll bet in the fine print of the contracts, Walmart will be compensated. Call it a gut feeling if you like, but they system did allow the transactions...
    A hacked computer system "technically" allows the activities taking place. it doesn't change the fact using such means to steal things is considered theft. The system error here merely made the theft easily achieved, but that doesn't change the fact that both parties knew that these were funds they did not have legal access to and still knowingly tried to exploit them.

    It's like trying to justify stealing a car by saying "well, the keys were in it"

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    A little more info.

    7 CFR 274.12 - Electronic Benefit Transfer issuance system approval standards. | Code of Federal Regulations | LII / Legal Information Institute

    Relevant part:

    If authorization cannot be obtained before or at the time of purchase, the retailer assumes the risk for sufficient benefits being available in the household's account.
    under this section

    (g) Retailer participation. (1); under the first subsection here, (i), near the bottom of the paragraph.
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