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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If the bank makes an error in your favor, and then refuses to do anything about it - it's their problem and you're not on the hook. Walmart knew there was a problem with EBT cards and refused to take measures to correct it. They can go **** themselves.
    The question comes in whether or not your intentional defrauding the bank

    If you try to take $1000 out of your checking account when up you know you on,y have $200, but you know the banks system is down....then I'd think you'd be partially at fault for defrauding the bank. They acted recklessly as we'll giving you money without being able to verify your limit, but you knowingly tried to get them to give you more than you had

    That said, corporate hq at Walmart are idiots. I understand they likely didn't want to take the chance of negative affects from disallowing food stamp purchasers for an undetermined amount of time but I have to imagine that glitch would've been a legitimate excuse

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    No, business owners earn an income through their own work and the work of their employees and investors. A profit for a business occurs when the amount of revenue gained from a business activity exceeds the expenses, costs and taxes needed to sustain the activity. The only entity to take home the profit are business owners that are people. Only people can earn an income and only people can pay taxes.
    So when Apple reports a profit of 7 billion dollars, it did not actually make a profit?

    That is what you are saying. Which is clearly not the case. Apple as a business made a profit, and pays taxes on that profit
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Using your logic a corporation would keep on raising their prices to make more money to pay more taxes. Good for Obama and liberals that think there is no end to the money supply to spend on entitlements. Yep the more you tax business the more they raise prices to pay more taxes. Really good for Obama but bad for the consumer. Do you get it?
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    According to the new liberal economic paradigm, this little mishap is a good thing. The poor going on spending sprees helps them out, boosts demand, the demand causes companies to hire more people, those people then spend more money, and then those businesses earn and invest and hire more, the economy grows, we reach full employment, and our debt problems are resolved.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    So when Apple reports a profit of 7 billion dollars, it did not actually make a profit?

    That is what you are saying. Which is clearly not the case. Apple as a business made a profit, and pays taxes on that profit
    Yes, that is what I'm saying. Apple is just a company owned and operated by people. Those people are taxed when the government taxes the profits of the corporation.

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There's a such a thing as self responsibility.
    Where is Walmart's? Their responsibility was to follow the standards set on the EBT cards. They did not. They can't fault consumers for not following them either. It's not as if Wal-Mart corporates had no clue what was going on. They got wind of it. They should have put a stop to it. Is that not the mantra for you? If the higher ups know about it, they're at fault?
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    EBT is enabling, not assisting.

    Assistance would look like an EBT value = to 20% of their pay check. This encourages the recipiant to work.
    You'd think so, but look at the Earned Income Credit. It's basically welfare the rewards low income people for having a job.

    Except, many that benefit from it don't have to have a job. There's a lot of people out there willing to create a fraudulent income tax return claiming non-existent income to generate large tax refunds based on it. What would prevent the same from happening with EBT value based on income?

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Where is Walmart's? Their responsibility was to follow the standards set on the EBT cards. They did not. They can't fault consumers for not following them either. It's not as if Wal-Mart corporates had no clue what was going on. They got wind of it. They should have put a stop to it. Is that not the mantra for you? If the higher ups know about it, they're at fault?
    What those customers did was nothing less than theft. Just because Wal Mart allowed it to happen--yes,csharing some of the blame--doesn't excuse it.
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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Yeah... I'd appreciate it if you didn't pretend to speak for me. You get me very wrong. Thanks.
    I wasn't singling you, poweRob, out with that comment. If I got you very wrong, perhaps (though please do correct me if I'm wrong) that reflects that your leaders are getting it wrong. Eh?

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    Re: Food stamp glitch leads to Wal-Mart stampede

    Quote Originally Posted by vvx View Post
    You'd think so, but look at the Earned Income Credit. It's basically welfare the rewards low income people for having a job.

    Except, many that benefit from it don't have to have a job. There's a lot of people out there willing to create a fraudulent income tax return claiming non-existent income to generate large tax refunds based on it. What would prevent the same from happening with EBT value based on income?
    I don't you average crook has the means to commit fraud on that level.
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