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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You're the one skipping the point. Pure socialism means holding society back, which they do practice. Your example proved my original point exactly.
    No, it really doesn't. They mix in a religious belief. Without that, their work ethic would move them forward just fine. You confuse different things.

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy - SFGate



    If there ever was a clear cut benefit from working less to get more, right there is your poster child example.
    Unless your employer offers insurance then the subsidy can't be obtained

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You're preaching to the choir my friend.
    Maybe I was preaching with the choir.
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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Reducing income by a few hundred dollars to get thousands more in subsidies isn't some stupid choice being made by individuals. Its the incentives laid out by the structure of the law.
    Yes, it is a stupid choice when one can *not* reduce one's income and still get the subsidies while protecting some of your income from taxes.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, it is a stupid choice when one can *not* reduce one's income and still get the subsidies while protecting some of your income from taxes.
    I think you're missing the part where the subsidies are bracketed not scaled.

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Forced equality is socialism.
    Forced inequality is fascism.
    True capitalism is force-less.

    Hope that clears things up for you.
    Not really.

    First, no one said anything about holding anyone back that I know of. Second, people can work together for common goals and not hold anyone back. And capitalism is full of use of force. Remember, someone always wins.

    I'm just saying less of the propaganda and more facts would be appreciated. I'd not advocating for socialism. I just think factual arguments are better than vague emotion driven generalities.

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I think you're missing the part where the subsidies are bracketed not scaled.
    You're definitely missing the part where it clearly states that one can reduce one's bracket by putting money in a tax-deferred account.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    You're the one skipping the point. Pure socialism means holding society back, which they do practice. Your example proved my original point exactly.
    Let it go. You've won the argument 15 times already. This is just what they do, twisting themselves into these verbally gymnastic word contortions with a host of preset Alinsky tactics, muddying up the debate by sending you on a rabbit trail. Then they return back to the home base for further orders.

    Congratulations on your victory.

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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy - SFGate

    If there ever was a clear cut benefit from working less to get more, right there is your poster child example.

    This OP and several comments that follow degrade less affluent (poor) folks for "potentially" doing what they can to take advantage of a tax credit. How is this any different, other then the obvious fact that the poor need it more, then the super rich using every imaginable tax credit available? (Romney comes to mind)
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    Re: Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Lower 2014 income can net huge health care subsidy - SFGate

    If there ever was a clear cut benefit from working less to get more, right there is your poster child example.
    Well, maybe. But working less still means less money. I'm not at all sure how the subsidy works. It should be progressive, which would avoid much of the nonsense. If one is putting $50,000 into a SEP plan and spending down their cash in order to get a subsidy....well, that's just one more loophole that has to be fixed. Putting money into a tax-deferred savings account should not invoke subsidies. If it does? It needs fixing.

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