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Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial[W:793:1010:1190]

Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Not familiar with ad hom?

That's another tradition of the left, and their arguments seldom extend beyond that.

I'm familiar enough with ad hominem to know that wasn't what I did. I don't find things wrong simply by virtue of her saying them; however, I find her to be wrong pretty much 100% of the time.

Anytime you say that any rhetorical tactic is a "tradition of the left" without even acknowledging that "the right" is just as guilty of it, Jesus kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

I don't mind conservatism as much as I do complete ignorance and reducing politics to little more than a child's game of Cowboys and Indians.

If people could come to realize that liberalism and conservatism are political ideologies rather than personal identities, they might be able to discuss politics more intelligently instead of all this simple-minded finger pointing. You can tell them all day that Nazis were extreme right and Stalinist Russia extreme left, try to explain to them that authoritarianism is a common component to both and try to lead them to an actual understanding of the political terms they bandy about, but all they know is "My guys good. Your guys bad".

It's the politics of children.

Precisely, which is why I'm done with this absolutely terrible thread, and with a couple of posters in it.
 
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Precisely, which is why I'm done with this absolutely terrible thread, and with a couple of posters in it.

If I were you I would run also from logic, common sense, and verifiable data that you call cherry picking.
 
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If I were you I would run also from logic, common sense, and verifiable data that you call cherry picking.

You apparently don't know what "cherry picking" means.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

That's right. Instead of left and right (while ignoring the middle) it should be divided among those who want more government power and those who want less.

Divide however you want. But when people accuse people on the "other side" of being particularly ignorant or dishonest or something, it's just stupid. As if both sides don't have such things. As if people on both sides aren't sometimes ignorant or dishonest. As if most people aren't very willing to vilify those on the "other side" while ignoring the same behavior on "their side".

Case in point:

Don't try to give conservatives a bad name. Baggers are evil extremist racists and far from decent conservatives. Conservatives are merely misinformed greedy pigs, while baggers are irrational racists and haters.
 
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No, you haven't. You posted your opinion which is valueless when it comes to evidence. In other words, you have nothing.

If that's what you believe. I thought my deconstruction of Kobie's post was sufficient.
 
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No, you haven't. You posted your opinion which is valueless when it comes to evidence. In other words, you have nothing.

You'll notice two things: Nowhere is Stormfront called a conservative organization, and Fox News has called them neo-Nazis. Stormfront is conservative like NAMBLA is liberal.:roll:

[h=3]Stormfront (website) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/h]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)‎
Stormfront is a white nationalist, supremacist and neo-Nazi Internet forum that ... but Stormfront quickly began to become popular with the growth of the Internet at .... The Stormfront.org website is organized primarily as a discussion forum with ...
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

You apparently don't know what "cherry picking" means.

It's apparent you don't do what you say you will do.
 
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You'll notice two things: Nowhere is Stormfront called a conservative organization, and Fox News has called them neo-Nazis. Stormfront is conservative like NAMBLA is liberal.:roll:

[h=3]Stormfront (website) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/h]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormfront_(website)‎
Stormfront is a white nationalist, supremacist and neo-Nazi Internet forum that ... but Stormfront quickly began to become popular with the growth of the Internet at .... The Stormfront.org website is organized primarily as a discussion forum with ...

Well, NAMBLA is liberal. Didn't you see where Bronson asserted that all Obama voters are pedophiles? :lamo
 
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You apparently don't know what "cherry picking" means.

He'snot the only one. I've always gotten "picking"and "popping" mixed up, which has led to some rather awkward moments when I was younger and trying to ask out a girl on a first date.
 
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That viable 3rd party of Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 finally rid us of the Radical/Elite/Gilded Republicans dating back to Lincoln's murder....

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Just sayin'.:lamo
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

Divide however you want. But when people accuse people on the "other side" of being particularly ignorant or dishonest or something, it's just stupid. As if both sides don't have such things. As if people on both sides aren't sometimes ignorant or dishonest. As if most people aren't very willing to vilify those on the "other side" while ignoring the same behavior on "their side".

Case in point:

I'd say Michael66 wants more government power while the Tea Party wants less. The divide seems clear.
 
Re: Vets take down barricades in Washington

I'm not exactly sure what the rules are on posting from hatesites, can I PM you what I have?
No, thanks. I'm not interested in hate sites either.
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

I'm familiar enough with ad hominem to know that wasn't what I did. I don't find things wrong simply by virtue of her saying them; however, I find her to be wrong pretty much 100% of the time.

Anytime you say that any rhetorical tactic is a "tradition of the left" without even acknowledging that "the right" is just as guilty of it, Jesus kills a kitten. Please, think of the kittens.

You continue ad hom so it certainly seems like a tradition, though perhaps without realizing it.
 
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You continue ad hom so it certainly seems like a tradition, though perhaps without realizing it.

Methinks you don't know what ad hominem means.
 
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I'd say Michael66 wants more government power while the Tea Party wants less. The divide seems clear.

And both have lots of idiots and liars among them, who are more than happy to engage in it if it advances their cause but quick to decry it if the other side does it. So they both have idiotic lying hypocrites. Not a qualitative difference between them.
 
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And both have lots of idiots and liars among them, who are more than happy to engage in it if it advances their cause but quick to decry it if the other side does it. So they both have idiotic lying hypocrites. Not a qualitative difference between them.

Maybe addressing their ideas one at a time might move the debate forward.
 
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To him it means "anything said, that challenges my extremist right wing world view".

Perhaps Johnny should read more.

Just who are these right-wing extremists?

According to an official document of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, right-wing extremists include "groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration." It also includes those "rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority."

Are You an "Extremist"? - Thomas Sowell - Page full
 
Re: Cruz, Palin join protesters at WWII Memorial

I'd like to see a show of hands regarding who actually would WANT Cruz and Palin to stump for their election.
 
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